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kimba1

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Re: uhm my insurance cost more than obama tax penalty.
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2012, 02:59:05 AM »
Not really sure it's lack of doctors. If i were to stictly follow aetnas own list for finding a doctor i would have travel thrirty miles to see a doctor. But I simply went to a doctor near my house and just asked if he takes aetna. He said yes.

Possibly insurance companies are simply very bad at recommending doctors

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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2012, 03:47:59 AM »
Not really sure it's lack of doctors.

It's really common sense, Kimba.  If you take the same amount of Dr's we have in this country, and now nearly everyone is to be cared for, per ObamincationCare/Government, equals far fewer physicians

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« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2012, 10:05:48 AM »
I was pointing out the possible cause of lack of doctors

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« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2012, 11:12:04 AM »
While I was pointing out an actual reality to what will happen under Obamacare
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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2012, 12:04:26 PM »
not really
what your saying in the possible future thier will be lack of doctors , this is not fact but speculation with highly changable existing data. which is a goodthing the more you bring this up the more likely obamacare will be better when it happens.somehow complaints is thought of as a badthing. complaints is the very reason we imporove. the trick is knowing how far to go with a complaint

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« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2012, 09:28:39 PM »
  If Doctors get less pay, will the same number of students aspire to become Doctors?

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« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2012, 09:50:19 PM »
actually they are getting less pay and I`ve seen many give-up thier practice. Also the students are not gaurantee a job after graduation so it`s very possible less will aspire.

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« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2012, 11:54:31 PM »
The Law of supply and demand will determine the price, but not who pays the price.

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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2012, 11:55:17 PM »
not really

Yes really.......current situation X number of doctors, and Y number of patients.  Under Obamacare, no change in X, but Y increases exponentially, as more people ARE to be covered.  That's just the imminent reality


what your saying in the possible future thier will be lack of doctors , this is not fact but speculation with highly changable existing data.

With all due respect Kimba......that's a mathematical fact, in order to cover the millions more "entitled" to healthcare.  and that doesn't even take into account the disincentive for future folks to want to become a Dr, or those Physicians already here, who may choose to go practice elsewhere, take up a new profession, or simply retire early.  THOSE wold be the "changable data" that would actually make the situation far worse, as it relates to a Physician shortage under Obamacare

Then we add on all those new taxes built in, and we really see the monster behind the mask    :(

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« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2012, 11:58:47 PM »
Also , whereas Doctors tend to be high earners , most of them will be in the class that gets increased income taxes under the Obama plan.


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« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2012, 01:51:10 AM »
Yet even more disincentive...and our pool of Dr's gets even smaller
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« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2012, 03:10:19 AM »
As i stated before the doctors  available but not getting hired

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« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2012, 03:14:49 AM »
...and under Obamacare, far less available, just from a mathematical standpoint
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« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2012, 03:19:12 AM »
Actually this is going into a differing topic. How good are med school in the U.S ?

Many graduate from med school but don't get hired on.

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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2012, 05:19:51 AM »
Most do, though that's somewhat irrelevent to the Physician shortage that will be enormous with the Obamacare mandate
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle