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In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« on: November 02, 2012, 07:44:52 AM »
In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
David Ignatius. Opinion Writer | Washington Post

A detailed CIA timeline of the assault on U.S. facilities in Benghazi paints an anguishing picture of embattled Americans waiting for Libyan security forces who didn’t come and courageous CIA officers who died on a rooftop without the heavy weapons they needed, trying to protect their colleagues below.

It’s a story of individual bravery, but also of a CIA misjudgment in relying on Libyan militias and a newly formed Libyan intelligence organization to keep Americans safe in Benghazi.

While there were multiple errors that led to the final tragedy, there’s no evidence that the White House or CIA leadership deliberately delayed or impeded rescue efforts.

The CIA is now reviewing its security plans around the world to make sure the agency isn’t relying on shaky local forces. This is a difficult task because the United States has vulnerable arrangements in dozens of places.

The CIA timeline was described to me Thursday by a senior intelligence official. The narrative of events is dramatic and disturbing. Rather than try to parse each detail, let’s look at a summary of the highlights. The times listed are Benghazi time on the night of Sept. 11 and the morning of Sept. 12:

?9:40 p.m.: A senior State Department security officer at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi called the CIA base, at an annex about a mile away, and requested assistance: “The compound is under attack. People are moving through the gates.” CIA officers at the base can hear the alarm, and a team immediately begins gathering weapons and preparing to leave.

?10:04 p.m.: A six-person rescue squad from the agency’s Global Response Staff (GRS) leaves in two vehicles. The team leader is a career CIA officer; the team includes a contractor named Tyrone Woods, who later died. During the previous 24-minute interval, the CIA base chief calls the February 17 Brigade, other militias and the Libyan intelligence service seeking vehicles with .50-caliber machine guns. Nobody responds. The team leader and the base chief agree at 10:04 that they can’t wait any longer, and the squad heads for the consulate.

The senior intelligence official said that he doesn’t know whether Woods or any of the other team members agitated to go sooner but added that he wouldn’t be surprised. “I want them to have a sense of urgency,” he said.

?10:10 p.m.: The rescue team reached a chaotic intersection a few blocks from the consulate. Militias gathered there have several .50-caliber machine guns, which the CIA team tries unsuccessfully to commandeer; three militiamen offer to help. The rescue party now includes 10 people: six GRS officers, a CIA translator and the three Libyan volunteers.

?10:20 p.m.: A reconnaissance party of two GRS officers heads to the consulate; at 10:25, three more GRS officers enter the main gate and begin engaging the attackers. The firefight lasts about 15 minutes.

?10:40 p.m.: Members of the CIA team enter the burning inferno of “Villa C,” where Ambassador Christopher Stevens is believed to be hiding. CIA officers try numerous times to reach the “safe room” but are driven back by the intense smoke and fire. Small-arms fire continues from the Libyan attackers.

?11:11 p.m.: An unarmed military Predator drone arrives over the compound to provide aerial reconnaissance. The drone had been diverted from a mission over Darnah, about 90 minutes away. But without weapons, it can’t help much.

?11:15 p.m.: The CIA team puts a group of State Department officers into a vehicle and sends it to the agency base; at 11:30, the CIA officers depart under fire and reach the annex six minutes later.

?11:56 p.m.: CIA officers at the annex are attacked by a rocket-propelled grenade and small arms. Sporadic attacks continue for about another hour. The attacks stop at 1:01 a.m., and some assume the fight is over.

?1:15 a.m.: CIA reinforcements arrive on a 45-minute flight from Tripoli in a plane they’ve hastily chartered. The Tripoli team includes four GRS security officers, a CIA case officer and two U.S. military personnel on loan to the agency. They don’t leave the Benghazi airport until 4:30 a.m. The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport; obtaining vehicles; and the need to frame a clear mission plan. The first idea is to go to a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens, who they rightly suspect is already dead. (Also killed was a State Department communication specialist.) But the hospital is surrounded by the al-Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Sharia militia that mounted the consulate attack.

?5:04 a.m.: The team from Tripoli arrives at the CIA base. Glen Doherty, one of the GRS men from Tripoli, goes to the roof and joins Woods in firing positions.

?5:15 a.m.: A new Libyan assault begins, this time with mortars. Two rounds miss and the next three hit the roof. The rooftop defenders never “laser the mortars,” as has been reported. They don’t know the weapons are in place until the indirect fire begins, nor are the mortars observed by the drone overhead. The defenders have focused their laser sights earlier on several Libyan attackers, as warnings not to fire. At 5:26 the attack is over. Woods and Doherty are dead and two others are wounded.

?6 a.m.: Libyan forces from the military intelligence service finally arrive, now with 50 vehicles. They escort the Americans to the airport. A first group of 18, including two wounded, depart at 7 a.m. A second group of 12, plus the four dead, leave at 10 a.m. for Tripoli and then the long flight back to America.

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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2012, 11:26:21 AM »
Have these questions been answered yet?

- WHO SAID NO TO INCREASED SECURITY REQUESTS?

- IF OBAMA GAVE AN ORDER TO DO WHATEVER WAS NECESSARY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR FOLKS, WHERE IS THAT ORDER?

- AND IF THAT ORDER WAS RECEIVED, WHO DISOBEYED IT, AND INSTEAD ORDERED OUR CIA & MILITARY ASSETS TO STAND DOWN, WHILE OUR CONSULATE WAS UNDER ATTACK?
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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 01:35:59 PM »
CBS News has learned that during the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG).

"The CSG is the one group that's supposed to know what resources every agency has
. They know of multiple options and have the ability to coordinate counterterrorism assets across all the agencies," a high-ranking government official told CBS News. "They were not allowed to do their job. They were not called upon."

Information shared with CBS News from top counterterrorism sources in the government and military reveal keen frustration over the U.S. response on Sept. 11, the night Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in a coordinated attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya.

The circumstances of the attack, including the intelligence and security situation there, will be the subject of a Senate Intelligence Committee closed hearing on Nov. 15, with additional hearings to follow.

Counterterrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by CBS News express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy, but were not called upon to help in the attack.

CBS News has agreed not to quote directly from the emails, and to protect the identities of the sources who hold sensitive counterterrorism posts within the State Department, the U.S. military and the Justice Department.

As to why the Counterterrorism Security Group was not convened, National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor told CBS News "From the moment the President was briefed on the Benghazi attack, the response effort was handled by the most senior national security officials in governments. Members of the CSG were of course involved in these meetings and discussions to support their bosses."

Absent coordination from Counterterrorism Security Group, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official says the response to the crisis became more confused. The official says the FBI received a call during the attack representing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and requesting agents be deployed. But he and his colleagues agreed the agents "would not make any difference without security and other enablers to get them in the country and synch their efforts with military and diplomatic efforts to maximize their success."

Another senior counter terrorism official says a hostage rescue team was alternately asked to get ready and then stand down throughout the night, as officials seemed unable to make up their minds.

A third potential responder from a counter-terror force stationed in Europe says components of AFICOM -- the military's Africa Command based in Stuttgart, Germany -- were working on course of action during the assault. But no plan was put to use.

"Forces were positioned after the fact but not much good to those that needed it," the military source told CBS News.

"The response process was isolated at the most senior level," says an official referring to top officials in the executive branch. "My fellow counterterrorism professionals and I (were) not consulted."

The official says a protocol set forth in a classified presidential directive calls for the Counterterrorism Security Group (CSG) to be convened in the event of a possible terrorist attack. According to a public military document, the directive was designed to "synchronize the efforts of all the government agencies that have a role to play in the Global War on Terrorism."

The Administration also didn't call on the only interagency, on-call, short notice team poised to respond to terrorist incidents worldwide: the Foreign Emergency Support Team (FEST). FEST's seasoned experts leave within four hours of notification and can provide "the fastest assistance possible."

FEST Teams deployed immediately after al Qaeda bombings of U.S. embassies in East Africa in 1998, and the USS Cole in 2000, but were not used for Benghazi, to the chagrin of some insiders. It's likely that the CSG task force, if contacted, would have recommended FEST aid.

"First a tactical response was needed," says a senior U.S. counterterrorism official, "and while that was being implemented, the holistic response could have been developed and deployed within hours" which could have allowed the FBI investigate safely on site well ahead of the "24 days it took."

When asked why the FEST wasn't utilized, a State Department official said it was used previously in East Africa because of damage sustained to a U.S. Embassy "to help restore communications and other infrastructure support. In this case, that was unnecessary at Embassy Tripoli."

A White House official told us that at the start of the attack, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta "looked at available options, and the ones we exercised had our military forces arrive in less than 24 hours, well ahead of timelines laid out in established policies." He also said a "small group of reinforcements" was sent from Tripoli to Benghazi, but declined to say how many or what time they arrived. The Pentagon moved a team of special operators from central Europe to Sigonella, Italy but gave no other details.

Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans died in a protracted battle over the course of eight hours. It's believed two of the victims, Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, died in a mortar attack some six or seven hours after the U.S. Mission was first overrun by a terrorist mob that burned buildings and used AK-47 rifles, bombs, and mortars.

In the days after the assault, counterterrorism officials expressed dismay over what they interpreted as the Obama Administration's unwillingness to acknowledge that the attack was terrorism; and their opinion that resources which could have helped were excluded.

Counterterrorism officials from two agencies said they concluded almost immediately that the attack was by terrorists and was not spontaneous. "I came to this conclusion as soon as I heard the mortar rounds were impacting on top of the building our people were occupying," says one. "The position of the mortar must be plotted on a map, the target would have to be plotted, computations would be calculated that would result in the proper mortar tube elevation and the correct number of powder bags to be attached to the rounds."

A White House official says President Obama immediately acknowledged the assault was a terrorist attack. However, there was confusion as White House spokesman Jay Carney said three days later, "We have no information to suggest that it was a preplanned attack."

On Sept.16, U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice told CBS' "Face the Nation" and other talk shows that the assault appeared to have grown from a spontaneous protest over an anti-Islam video.

CBS' Bob Schieffer asked Rice whether she thought "that this was something that had been plotted out several months ago?" Rice answered, "We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned."

In an interview last week, President Obama said "the minute" he became aware of the Benghazi attack, he directed his staff to "make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to do."

"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 01:41:41 PM »
Next you will be criticizing them for not calling on the Power Rangers or flashing the Bat Signal.

Dimwits.
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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 02:10:55 PM »
Whenever you plan on joining the rationally minded in debate, please give us a heads-up
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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 02:51:57 PM »
You have not debated rationally here, ever.

It's all ego trip and Big Swinging Dick Syndrome for sirs. It is all he knows how to do.
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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 02:52:51 PM »
And H wonders why Xo gets so much hell
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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 03:43:37 PM »
Sirs is a very needy individual.  It's worse than having a bunch of 3 year olds around.

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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 03:58:25 PM »
Speaking of 3 year olds, how's the lessons coming B?  Xo seems to have found an apt pupil
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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 04:23:40 PM »
Next you will be criticizing them for not calling on the Power Rangers or flashing the Bat Signal.

Dimwits.

There are some pretty fantastic wepons in our arsenal that are not fantasy.

An AC-130 less than two hours flight from there is one example.

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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 04:25:09 PM »
Was the Attack on the Benghazi Consulate an act of terror or a military operation.

What makes it an act of terror?

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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 04:27:30 PM »
Was the Attack on the Benghazi Consulate an act of terror or a military operation.

What makes it an act of terror?

Can't it be both?

What was the intent?

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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 04:28:16 PM »
Next you will be criticizing them for not calling on the Power Rangers or flashing the Bat Signal.

Dimwits.

There are some pretty fantastic wepons in our arsenal that are not fantasy.

An AC-130 less than two hours flight from there is one example.

And if someone had painted the mortar area with a lasar designator, that AC-130 would have put a serious stop to perhaps all 4 of those who were butchered.  Oh wait....we did get a laser on it
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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 04:38:20 PM »
Was the Attack on the Benghazi Consulate an act of terror or a military operation.

What makes it an act of terror?

Can't it be both?

What was the intent?

I suppose it could. Was Pearl Harbor an act of terror?

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Re: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 04:47:37 PM »
I'd say yes, BUT, it was more military, since its goal/objective was to hit our key military installation in the Pacific.  The U.S. Consulate was far more of a symbolic target, which tends to be more terrorist-geared vs military.

But yea, they can be both
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