Bushmaster

[Christians4LessGvt]

Which Amendment gives us the right to overthrow an oppressive government.Be Specific.

The Declaration of Independence does.

Also states like New Hampshire, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Maryland
and Texas have a "right to revolution" written in their Constitutions.

[sirs]

In order to overthrow one must attempt to protect. And again where is it written in the text of the second that that is the main purpose.

You have my comments twisted as usual.  I have made no reference to a right to overthrow.  That was your leap.  The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to help protect against an oppressive government.  There is no declaration that we're allowed to overthrow, in the Bill of Rights, merely that the Bill of Rights are limitations placed on what the Government can do.  You know that, which begs the question, why are you playing this game?  Can't get any clearer than that....and note that none of them make any reference to hunting

[sirs]

Which means......nothing as it relates, to the 2nd amendment to the U.S. Constitution     
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Except that if one has no rifles, it is lots harder to hunt.

As Homer Simpson might say....d'uh,....though hunting with bow & arrow was common as well, 

Which again means absolutely nothing, as it relates to the 2nd amendment to the Constitution           If you don't have the right clothes on, that can also make it harder to hunt.  If you cover yourself in some form of fish scent, that can REALLY make it harder to hunt.  If you have a very noisy neighbor coming along with you, that too can make it a lot harder to hunt.  There's a whole host of things that can make it harder to hunt, and none of them having to do with the 2nd amendment

And again, the Feds knew that they did not have the capability of disarming a largely rural population, anyway.

Any why would they, even if they could, given how the country was founded??

[BT]

How does one protect against an oppressive government with firearms?

What is the process that is implied by the 2nd?

[sirs]

It's called defending oneself.  That's the primary purpose of firearms, as it relates to the 2nd amendment.  Notice how that isn't some written right to overthrow, nor any inference to better hunting

Can we be thru with this, now?

[BT]

Can we be thru with this, now?

No you haven't answered my questions to my satisfaction.

So you pull your gun on the oppressing government.

What happens next?

What do you think the founders envisioned would be the result of taking up arms against the oppressors.

What did they do when they declared independence?

What was the end result?

[Christians4LessGvt]

How does one protect against an oppressive government with firearms?

see syria
see chechnya
see places all over the globe
it's been happening for centuries

[BT]

How does one protect against an oppressive government with firearms?

see syria
see chechnya
see places all over the globe
it's been happening for centuries

That's nice. But what do those countries have to do with the 2nd Amendment?

And what was the end result of those actions?

[Christians4LessGvt]

That's nice. But what do those countries have to do with the 2nd Amendment?
And what was the end result of those actions?

You asked a question I answered it.
As for your new questions.....
Those gvts are dealing with an armed pissed off populace.
It's easier for a gvt to do whatever they want against an unarmed populace.
Our gvt tries to take 270 million weapons away from it's citizens
I guess we'll find out what the result will be.
I predict it would not be pretty.
Obama is going to try to push the envelope with executive orders
Obama will try an "end around" the Constitution to get his way
Liberals often try to subvert the will of the people
We'll see how it turns out.....

[BT]

So you think the end result will be an overthrowing of the oppressing gvt.

That is the direction Syria is heading. As was the direction Llibya took.

Whether they remain free of oppressors of course remains to be seen. See Egypt.

[Christians4LessGvt]

So you think the end result will be an overthrowing of the oppressing gvt.
That is the direction Syria is heading. As was the direction Llibya took.
Whether they remain free of oppressors of course remains to be seen. See Egypt.

No way to know....really I mainly think these are part of a world chess game
Not even sure who all the real players are and/or what their goals are
Obama threw out Khadafi just like Bush threw out Saddam
Now Obama and the Saudis are trying to throw out Assad.
I dont think these are some legit revolutions "of the people".
Sure the people are pissed off...but they have will have no real say now or later
These are chess game manuevers........

[Christians4LessGvt]

How does one protect against an oppressive government with firearms?
What is the process that is implied by the 2nd?

How would answer the same questions BT?

Do you think the 2nd was talking about "hunting"?

[Plane]

The procedure for declairing independance from England required the convention of a congress which signed a declaration of independeance.

Then after the forms were delivered the process of shooting started.

The shooting started, I think, during an attempt by the British to confiscate some milita muskets.

[BT]

As to your first question, if i were to use firearms to protect myself from an oppressive government, i would do all in my power to to rid the country of that oppressive government, whether that be by cutting the head off the snake or toppling the whole damn thing.

As to your second. Owning a firearm facilitates the act of hunting. It is not the reason to be for the second. If you look back, i never claimed it was the primary reason for the amendment.

[sirs]

It wasn't even a secondary reason as an Amendment to the Bill of Rights.......or a 3rd......or pick any #.