A Study of "Geography"?

[sirs]

One problem......a gaping one at that

[Xavier_Onassis]

Palestine is not mentioned either.

As my Aunt Maud was wont to say, "If you cannot say anything good, just don't say anything."

It would be proper to show Israel as approved by the UN in 1947, and then label everything else up the borders of  Egypt, Lebanon. Syria and Jordan as "disputed territory". Because it is disputed territory.

[sirs]

Palestine is not mentioned either.

A) Palestine isn't a country
b) this was being used as a current geography map/atlas, not a "historical one"

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is a Palestinian territory. If it isn't a nation, it is only because of the US  veto power.

Publishing is a profit making business. It says nothing about pollution on the gasoline pump at the Exxon Station either, or about how fattening the burger at the Burger King are. It is not illegal to leave the word "Israel" off a map in an atlas.

If Israel doesn't like it, let them sue. There is not a shortage of Jewish lawyers.

Israel claims it wants a two state solution, but refuses to negotiate. The plan is to annex everything but Gaza.

It's time read Netanyahu the riot act and tell him to get cracking on negotiations or goodbye Iron Dome.

[Plane]

   Iron Dome does not depend on us.

   It may be derived from the "PATRIOT" missile but it isn't a US product any more than that.

    What sort of negotiation should he be trying to do?

       Seems as if his experience is that every concession enables an atrocity.

         Why do Palestinians want harsher apartheid?

[sirs]

There is a Palestinian territory. If it isn't a nation, it is only because of the US  veto power.

LOL.....back that up.  Your opinion of the U.S. using veto power to stop the naming of some territory Palestine, doesn't hold water, I'm afraid.  In fact, there's a sirs' territory here in CA, but the Chinese have veto power over it, being called a nation.  There,.... just as much "fact" as your claim

 

Israel claims it wants a two state solution, but refuses to negotiate. The plan is to annex everything but Gaza

You have that bass-ackwards.  Israel wants to negotiate, but there can be negotiation when the other side refuses to acklowedge your very existance

[Plane]

 

Israel claims it wants a two state solution, but refuses to negotiate. The plan is to annex everything but Gaza

You have that bass-ackwards.  Israel wants to negotiate, but there can be negotiation when the other side refuses to acklowedge your very existance

   Is negotiation possible in the first place?

   I really don't see that the Palestinians have the ability to offer peace no matter what the concession might be, there isn't a Palestinian authority that can really give peace a chance.

     This was always Yassir Arafat's problem, he could organize a fight , but his authority to organize a peace was less.

     

[Xavier_Onassis]

Each and every time they are about to negotiate, Israel does something that it knows will provoke a conflict with the Palestinians. Nearly all the news we get in the US is Israeli propaganda and not to be trusted.

The US subsidies Israel to the tune of over $4000 per Israeli per year and has been doing that forever. Israel stands for practices that are abhorrent to Americans: discrimination, unity of religion and state, and subsidizing religious ne'er do wells with tax money. OUR tax money.

[Plane]

Each and every time they are about to negotiate, Israel does something that it knows will provoke a conflict with the Palestinians. ....

  Yes , and when they are too slow about it the Palestinians do the provocation for them.

   I would not mind if they were more serious about negotiation, and you seem to like the idea , but where is the evidence that there is a significant Palestinian will to negotiate?

    What you are saying here is perfectly even on both sides , there is a very strong faction that prefers to fight .

    Even if there is an equally strong faction willing to negotiate , there is a natural advantage to the pro-fight faction that can keep a chain of irritating incidents running. the pro-peace faction , would have to be very strong indeed to control its own contrary hawks.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The obvious goal of Netanyahu is to delay negotiations forever. He does not want a two state solution, when he says he does, it is only lip service.

The US should treat Israel and Palestine EQUALLY.  Both the Jews and the Palestinians have the same rights, and the US treats them unequally.
 It is REVOLTING to see our Congress sucking up to that goddamn Netanyuhu every time he comes a-begging. They do not honor the leaders of Canada, the UK, Mexico or any other country in the same way. Netanyahu is an expert at manipulating the fools we elect. It is disgraceful.

[sirs]

Where as the obvious goal of Hamas & the Palestinians is to destroy the very state of Israel.  Hard to even begin to work around a "2 state solution" when one of those states has no intention of accepting the other

[Xavier_Onassis]

That is just a crock of bullshit. You are simply a gullible fool.

[sirs]

Great rebuttal.....completely avoiding all current facts and reality.  2 parties require that each party aknowledge the right of the other to exist, for ANY negotiation to go foward.  Regardless of what you believe as Isreal "delaying things", or your supposed ability to read Netanyahu's mind, as to what his true intentions are, Hamas & the Palestinians actively demonstrate the goal of removing Israel from the region, both verbally and in their political platforms.  Including only accepting atlasas that don't include the country of Israel

[Plane]

  I haven't seen a lot of evidence that the "two state solution " is popular with Palestinians.

 

[Xavier_Onassis]

That is because you only listen to Zionist propaganda. The PLO has said this many, many times.