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[Rich]

So Lanya thinks free speech is fascist if you disagree with a lunatic liberal.

More evidence liberals have no idea what a fascist is.

[Michael Tee]

<<The petition prompted Brent Caflisch to go to his computer in Rosemount, Minn. "Maybe the terrorists will do us all a favor and attack your town next, our country would be much safer with several thousand dead wackjobs in Vermont," he wrote.>>

That is not "disagreeing" with a liberal.  That is a fairly clear statement that the country would be safer if a few thousand liberals in Vermont were dead.  A thinly veiled death threat if I ever heard one.  And a typical Nazi or KKK "argument."   Telling anyone that the country would be a lot safer if the were dead is to remind them that the expression of their views could bring many others to the same conclusion and then to start calculating the odds of one of those many others actually acting to make the country "safer."

It's a threat - - your life is in danger if you continue to express such views.

That is classic fascism in action.

[Rich]

The fascist calling the kettle fascist.

[Michael Tee]

Sounds more like YOU calling me a fascist.  You calling Lanya a fascist.  You calling the Brattleboro councilmen fascists. 

And in fact you calling everyone a fascist EXCEPT the guy who issued a death threat against the Brattleboro councilmen.

Well, we all need a little humour in our lives, and I guess if you're determined to provide it,  we should all be appropriately grateful.

[sirs]

Sounds more like YOU calling me a fascist.  You calling Lanya a fascist.  You calling the Brattleboro councilmen fascists.   And in fact you calling everyone a fascist EXCEPT the guy who issued a death threat against the Brattleboro councilmen.

Or ANYONE that dares not support how evil and diabolical Bush and Amerikkka are supposed to be

On a more unfortunate tangent, that may get me in trouble with the founders, is the witnessing Lanya's devolving of debate.  seriously, I remember when lanya was a sincere, steadfast liberal, but open minded, one who'd acknowledge when she was wrong, apologise when she was over the line, concede when a position of hers was shown to be in error.  She was nearly always civil and courteous.  Call it BDS, call it frustration, call it whatever, but from my perspective, while it was bad enough watching that dialog morph down to "all Republicans want women to die of cancer" (that she still stands by, BTW), now she's even adopted the Tee tact of dialog, calling largely anyone of the "RW", Fascists now.

Sad.....it really is sad, IMHO.  I apologise if my comments are offensive, and if I'm required to take some time off, I'll follow the decisions handed down

[Rich]

>>And in fact you calling everyone a fascist EXCEPT the guy who issued a death threat against the Brattleboro councilmen.<<

How would this make him a fascist? And where did he threaten anyone?

[_JS]

You know, another interesting difference in Fascists and Socialists, and something that still lingers in the right-wing today is a general disdain of culture and society.

    "Disdain for culture & society" huh?  Rings right up there with how all Republicans want women to die of Cancer.  I kinda thought better of you, Js.  Perhaps I was mistaken.  Or is your definition of disdain different than ...... most everyone else?

If you read what I write, as opposed to reading what you wish I'd write, you'll note that I said it still lingers amongst the right-wing today. I never said it is common or prevalent. Yet, there are those that take the very attitude of Goering.

Rich, just by reading what he writes, is an excellent example.

[The_Professor]

Sounds more like YOU calling me a fascist.  You calling Lanya a fascist.  You calling the Brattleboro councilmen fascists.   And in fact you calling everyone a fascist EXCEPT the guy who issued a death threat against the Brattleboro councilmen.

Or ANYONE that dares not support how evil and diabolical Bush and Amerikkka are supposed to be

On a more unfortunate tangent, that may get me in trouble with the founders, is the witnessing Lanya's devolving of debate.  seriously, I remember when lanya was a sincere, steadfast liberal, but open minded, one who'd acknowledge when she was wrong, apologise when she was over the line, concede when a position of hers was shown to be in error.  She was nearly always civil and courteous.  Call it BDS, call it frustration, call it whatever, but from my perspective, while it was bad enough watching that dialog morph down to "all Republicans want women to die of cancer" (that she still stands by, BTW), now she's even adopted the Tee tact of dialog, calling largely anyone of the "RW", Fascists now.

Sad.....it really is sad, IMHO.  I apologise if my comments are offensive, and if I'm required to take some time off, I'll follow the decisions handed down

Now, Sirs, be honest NO ONE really believes Republicans want women to die of cancer. If they truly did ,they would be friggin indiot of immense proportions. Someone with less than half a reasoning brain. A true nincompoop. Heck, I don't half of what I hear about commie pinko <insert derogatory comments here> liberals either. Talk is talk; reality is reality. Sometimes they meet and sometimes they don't. Simple, actually.

[Amianthus]

be honest NO ONE really believes Republicans want women to die of cancer.

Lanya titled a post "Why do Republicans want women to die of cancer?" and when pressed she claimed that she stood behind what she wrote. Since her post was an article, and the ONLY part she wrote was the title, it stands to reason that Lanya believes this. Also, during the discussion, a number of others on the left also said that they felt she was right.

[The_Professor]

Then BT can boot me from the Forum when I categorically state that any and all who believe this are devoid of brain cells and need some common sense kicked into their brains, Lanya and/or anyone else.

Anyone who seriously believes this is a friggin IDIOT.

[yellow_crane]

>>Mussolini evolved into a right wing leader.<<

This is of course a left-wing fantasy. Italian fascism wasn't German fascism, but both were left wing and Mussolini was a hero to the American left, that is until he invaded Africa. Even then it wasn't the fascism that bothered the left, it was the aggression.

Were you home-schooled?

Were you schooled?

[sirs]

Now, Sirs, be honest NO ONE really believes Republicans want women to die of cancer. If they truly did ,they would be friggin indiot of immense proportions.

Ask her, Professor.  Seriously.  Last time she was questioned she stated clearly how she "stood by" her statements

[sirs]

   "Disdain for culture & society" huh?  Rings right up there with how all Republicans want women to die of Cancer.  I kinda thought better of you, Js.  Perhaps I was mistaken.  Or is your definition of disdain different than ...... most everyone else?

If you read what I write, as opposed to reading what you wish I'd write, you'll note that I said it still lingers amongst the right-wing today. I never said it is common or prevalent. Yet, there are those that take the very attitude of Goering.  Rich, just by reading what he writes, is an excellent example.

There are fringe elements to every ideology Js.  But to imply some generalized "disdain for culture & society" by the RW is pretty egregious.  Let's match that by saying the Left despises and loathes our military.  That's accurate, right?

[yellow_crane]

   "Disdain for culture & society" huh?  Rings right up there with how all Republicans want women to die of Cancer.  I kinda thought better of you, Js.  Perhaps I was mistaken.  Or is your definition of disdain different than ...... most everyone else?

If you read what I write, as opposed to reading what you wish I'd write, you'll note that I said it still lingers amongst the right-wing today. I never said it is common or prevalent. Yet, there are those that take the very attitude of Goering.  Rich, just by reading what he writes, is an excellent example.

There are fringe elements to every ideology Js.  But to imply some generalized "disdain for culture & society" by the RW is pretty egregious.  Let's match that by saying the Left despises and loathes our military.  That's accurate, right?

No, that is inaccurate.

What the Left hates is imperialism.

There is a difference, but not to the RightWind propaganda machine you seem to memorize.

[The_Professor]

Now, Sirs, be honest NO ONE really believes Republicans want women to die of cancer. If they truly did ,they would be friggin idiot of immense proportions.

Ask her, Professor.  Seriously.  Last time she was questioned she stated clearly how she "stood by" her statements

Sirs, I cannot believe this to be true, ok? No one is this shortchanged and biased.

I disagree a lot with what those more Left of me say, but that doesn't mean I believe they would seriously believe this feldercardb. It must have been a fishing expedition, for sure.