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Vote on arresting Bush, Cheney
« on: January 28, 2008, 11:25:42 AM »
Article published Jan 26, 2008
Brattleboro to vote on arresting Bush, Cheney

By Susan Smallheer Herald Staff

BRATTLEBORO ? Brattleboro residents will vote at town meeting on whether President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney should be indicted and arrested for war crimes, perjury or obstruction of justice if they ever step foot in Vermont.

The Brattleboro Select Board voted 3-2 Friday to put the controversial item on the Town Meeting Day warning.

According to Town Clerk Annette Cappy, organizers of the Bush-Cheney issue gathered enough signatures, and it was up to the Select Board whether Brattleboro voters would consider the issue in March.

Cappy said residents will get to vote on the matter by paper balloting March 4.

Kurt Daims, 54, of Brattleboro, the organizer of the petition drive, said Friday the debate to get the issue on the ballot was a good one. Opposition to the vote focused on whether the town had any power to endorse the matter.

"It is an advisory thing," said Daims, a retired prototype machinist and stay-at-home dad of three daughters.

So far, Vermont is the only state Bush hasn't visited since he became president in 2001.

Daims said the most grievous crime committed by Bush and Cheney was perjury ? lying to Congress and U.S. citizens about the basis of a war in Iraq.

He said the latest count showed a total of 600,000 people have died in the war.

Daims also said he believed Bush and Cheney were also guilty of espionage for spying on American people and obstruction of justice, for the politically generated firings of U.S. attorneys.

Voting to put the matter on the town ballot were Chairwoman Audrey Garfield and board members Richard Garrant and Dora Boubalis.

Voting against the idea were board members Richard DeGray and Stephen Steidle.

Daims said the names submitted to the town clerk's office were the second wave of signatures the petition drive had to collect, because he had to rewrite the wording of the petition.

He said he gathered nearly 500 signatures in about three weeks, and he said most people he encountered were eager to sign it. He started the petition drive about three months ago.

"Everybody I talked to wanted Bush to go," he said, noting that even members of the local police department supported the drive.

"This is exactly what the charter envisioned as a citizen initiative," Daims said. "People want to express themselves and they want to say how they feel."

He said the idea is spreading: Activists in Louisville, Ky., are spearheading a similar drive, and he said activists were also working in Montague, Mass., a Berkshires town.

The article asked the town attorney to "draft indictments against President Bush and Vice President Cheney for crimes against our Constitution and publish said indictments for consideration by other authorities."

The article goes on to say the indictments would be the "law of the town of Brattleboro that the Brattleboro police ... arrest and detain George Bush and Richard Cheney in Brattleboro, if they are not duly impeached ..."

Daims said people in Brattleboro were willing to "think outside the box" and consider the issue.

Daims had no compunction in comparing Bush and Cheney with one of the most notorious people in history.

"If Hitler were still alive and walked through Brattleboro, I think the local police would arrest him for war crimes," Daims said.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080126/NEWS04/801260359/1003/NEWS02&template=printart
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Re: Vote on arresting Bush, Cheney
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2008, 11:45:22 AM »
Wow, that's just amazing.  Good for them.  America's STILL a great country, but it's been hijacked for so long.  So there's a real America buried under all that fascist, militaristic shit after all.

<<So far, Vermont is the only state Bush hasn't visited since he became president in 2001.>>

That's hilarious.  What a great people.  What a great state!

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Re: Vote on arresting Bush, Cheney
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 12:24:21 PM »
The murdering communist calling Americans fascist.

Hilarious.

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2008, 12:37:42 PM »
<<The murdering communist calling Americans fascist.    Hilarious.>>

What's hilarious is your total fucking ignorance combined with your misdirected rage.  If anyone has any questions about the success of the Nazi/Cold War propaganda campaign against communism, I will definitely tell them to read your posts.  It's obviously thanks to morons like you that Amerikkka has the "leadership" that it does.

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2008, 01:22:15 PM »
My rage ... lol.

It's not rage kid, it's outrage. That some basement dwelling communist nerd is allowed to make outrageous slanders about America outrages me. If it weren't for Americans you'd be driving your dog sled to the nearest lake digging a hole in the ice struggling to feed yourself.

But I really should apologize. History has show communism for what it is. A brutal totalitarian form of government rejected wherever it's been tried. There are lots of Eastern European folks here in Northeast Ohio. You should come down and hop up on a shop box downtown one day and preach your communist tripe and see how survivors of communist death squads react to your drivel.

You wouldn't last 20 minutes.

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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 01:33:23 PM »
The murdering communist calling Americans fascist.
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What "murdering Communist"? who has he murdered?

Or are you just full of crap as always, Richiepoo?


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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 01:38:26 PM »
MT, Rich does have a point as far as national security. America provides a nuclear umbrella over Canada and would definitely come to its aid if needed.

It seems ot me the primary reasone why Canada developed a different legislative and executive strrucutre and een culture is due to the inherently pro-British sentiment versus American revolutionary zeal. So, You got the more "liberal" bent due to this history.

That being said, the two are closely linked in a myriad of ways and I expect that to not change.

Canada is a great nation and I have been there several itmes but America is where I CHOOSE to live. With my experience and credentials, I could go just about anywhere and be economically successful, but I CHOOSE to live here.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2008, 01:56:57 PM »
<<It's not rage kid, it's outrage.>>

Sure coulda fooled me.  But OK, it's outrage.  At stuff that never happened.  At lies and bullshit made up by Nazis, anti-Semites, billionaires and imperialists to give some plausible excuse for all their years spent coddling Nazi extremists in the hopes that one day they would destroy the U.S.S.R., the greatest threat to their hegemony that they'd ever seen.

<<That some basement dwelling communist nerd is allowed to make outrageous slanders about America outrages me. >>

Yeah, especially when every word of them are true.  After all the efforts the murdering bastards put into brainwashing morons like you to think they were fighting for "freedom" and "feeding the world" instead of impoverishing it.

<<If it weren't for Americans you'd be driving your dog sled to the nearest lake digging a hole in the ice struggling to feed yourself.>>

LOL.  Where do you find this stuff?

<<But I really should apologize. History has show communism for what it is. >>

"History," huh?  What's that?  A new word for the bullshit that your schools and your MSM feed you 24/7?

<<A brutal totalitarian form of government rejected wherever it's been tried. >>

You mean successfully sabotaged by the West and finally brought down by a combination of Nazi invasions and post-war encirclement.

<<There are lots of Eastern European folks here in Northeast Ohio. You should come down and hop up on a shop box downtown one day and preach your communist tripe and see how survivors of communist death squads react to your drivel.>>

"Survivors of communist death camps," huh?  Try "veterans of Nazi armies, Jew-killers and anti-Semites" and their offspring and women and you'd be a lot more accurate, moron.  You bet they'd react violently to anyone telling the truth about them.  Letting those fucking war criminals into the country was one of the worst scandals of the Cold War.  They already had their chance to tangle with real communists and the Red Army planted most of 'em.  Too bad these fucking Nazis got away.  Naturally, they came to Amerikkka.  Next time you meet one of 'em, ask what they REALLY did in the war.  Moron.

<<You wouldn't last 20 minutes.>>

Probably not, the way THEY operate.  Give me 20 minutes in a room alone with just one of them and we'll see who lasts the 20 minutes.  It would be my pleasure to make just one of the bastards pay for Hitler's crimes.

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Re: Vote on arresting Bush, Cheney
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2008, 02:31:18 PM »
<<MT, Rich does have a point as far as national security. America provides a nuclear umbrella over Canada and would definitely come to its aid if needed.>>

Well, so what?  We came to their aid in Afghanistan when needed.  And lot faster than they came to our aid  in WWII.  Lost close to 100 good people so far and never even asked whose fault it was that America was attacked in the first place.

<<It seems ot me the primary reasone why Canada developed a different legislative and executive strrucutre and een culture is due to the inherently pro-British sentiment versus American revolutionary zeal. So, You got the more "liberal" bent due to this history.>>

It's mostly the other way round, Professor.  Except for the concept of slavery and two-tiered citizenship, which was anathema to the British, it was the U.S. that was more liberal than Canada.  We never had a Bill of Rights, or the right to question jurys before selecting them, we still have an appointed Senate instead of an elected Senate (standng in for the House of Lords.)   Britain was always much more conservative a country than the U.S.A.  This whole first-name thing - - I went to the only high school in the Province where the teachers called the students by first name - - every other school, Bob Smith was "Smith" and Lucy Jones was "Miss Jones" to the teachers.  We always thought of the U.S.A. as the most liberal country in the world, except of course the Southern States.


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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2008, 02:46:27 PM »
>>Canada is a great nation ... <<

A once great nation, and hopefully will be in the future. I know lot's of Canadians, and none of them are Communists. In fact, they all dislike Canadian healthcare. Communists are pariah, nobody takes a communist seriously, nor should they.

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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2008, 02:52:52 PM »
>>At lies and bullshit made up by Nazis, anti-Semites, billionaires and imperialists ...<<

Yeah, that must be it. Lies ... all lies. You're not paranoid, everybody really is out to get you.

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2008, 03:03:55 PM »
<<Yeah, that must be it. Lies ... all lies. You're not paranoid, everybody really is out to get you.>>

Yeah, Rich, I just imagined all those Nazis.  Nobody was out to get me.  It never happened.  And those Eastern European friends of yours in Ohio?  Funny they never went back home to Eastern Europe after the defeat of the Nazis, huh?  You don't think the Russians, uh, kind of wanted to talk to them?  About their activities during the war?

Here's a little experiment for you - - just ask 'em what they did in the war, where they were.  And ask 'em what they think of the Jews, too. Confidentially, kind of.  Just one on one.

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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2008, 03:06:06 PM »
Oh ... the folks who fled the death squads are the guilty ones.

How typically fascist of you.

Seriously, you really need help.

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2008, 03:20:08 PM »
<<Oh ... the folks who fled the death squads are the guilty ones.>>

Why are WE debating this?  These guys are right there in front of you.  Don't take my word for it.   Just ask them in confidence, man-to-man, no one else present, what'd they really do in the War?  What do they really think about the Jews?

It's an eye-opener.  Specially if these guys have had a few.  Just do it, and then we'll talk.  Communist death squads, my ass.  The only people the "communist death squads" were looking for were the Nazis who had raped, tortured and murdered their way through the U.S.S.R. and Eastern Europe.  They were out for revenge, and thank you, God, they got it.

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2008, 07:28:18 PM »
>>Canada is a great nation ... <<

A once great nation, and hopefully will be in the future. I know lot's of Canadians, and none of them are Communists. In fact, they all dislike Canadian healthcare. Communists are pariah, nobody takes a communist seriously, nor should they.

All kinds of horrible people were socialists.

Albert Einstein
Martin Luther King Jr.
Clement Attlee
Golda Meier
Willy Brandt
Ernest Bevin
Keir Hardie
H.G. Wells
Ernest Hemingway
W.B. Yeats
The Hashomer Hatzair, without whom your state of Israel would likely not exist

It is a good thing no one ever takes socialism seriously, huh?

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