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Why can't Obama close the deal?
« on: April 23, 2008, 09:32:29 AM »


Analysis: Obama still struggling to win key constituencies

By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
April 23, 2008

PHILADELPHIA -

Why can't Barack Obama close the deal?

It's a question Hillary Rodham Clinton and her surrogates raised through the last days of the caustic Pennsylvania primary contest. And unfortunately for Obama ? who lost to the former first lady by a 10-point margin Tuesday night ? it's a question that bears repeating.

The loss, despite a massive cash infusion and robust campaign presence in the state, underscores the persistent problems he's had winning over many of the voters who form the traditional Democratic party base.

While the Illinois senator remains overwhelmingly popular among blacks, affluent voters and young people, other groups key to building the Democratic coalition remain elusive.

Clinton bested him among white, blue-collar voters by a margin of 69 percent to 30 percent in Pennsylvania, similar to her showing in Ohio last month. She also won older voters, women and whites and improved her margins among white, non-Catholic men.

To be sure, Obama has performed well among those groups in a handful of primaries, including Wisconsin and Virginia, both likely general election swing states.

Obama surely will emerge with sufficient delegates to maintain his overall lead, and Clinton's win in Pennsylvania will not do much to close the popular vote gap as she tries to eat into his margin. But the sense of momentum that propelled him to crushing margins across 11 contests beginning in February has slowed, raising concerns among many party activists that he will be left bruised and limping by the time the primaries end in June.

The Obama campaign points to the many advantages Clinton enjoyed in Pennsylvania: its large population of working class voters and seniors played to her strengths, and her family enjoys deep roots in Scranton, in the northeastern part of the state ? a fact the New York senator never failed to bring up on the campaign trail.

Former President Clinton, who remains a popular figure here, campaigned extensively for his wife. And she had the support of Ed Rendell, the state's popular governor and a savvy political operative in his own right.

But Obama had considerable strengths of his own ? money first and foremost. He spent $11.2 million on television ads to Clinton's $4.8 million. He spent countless more on phone banks, mail and voter targeting.

Surveys among Pennsylvanians after they left the polls showed they viewed Obama as more honest and trustworthy than Clinton, and that they favored a candidate who can bring about change ? Obama's core message ? over one who, like Clinton, has had years of political experience.

The six-week hiatus after the last major primary in Mississippi were not particularly kind to either candidate.

Obama was forced to defend his association with his pastor of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, after videos surfaced showing Wright delivering anti-American sermons from the pulpit. Obama also was confronted with his own comments at a fundraiser in San Francisco, where he described small-town voters as bitterly clinging to guns and religion.

In the same period, Clinton came under withering criticism for her discredited tale of coming under sniper fire at an arrival ceremony in Bosnia as first lady in 1996. She stuck to the falsehood until television footage of the peaceful arrival surfaced, forcing her to acknowledge that she "misspoke."

Clinton also goes into the final nine contests at a significant cash disadvantage, although she said Wednesday morning in a round of television interviews that her campaign had raised $3 million online since winning Pennsylvania. She also must fight the perception that she is damaging Obama's chances in the general election by fighting on even with little chance of overcoming his lead in delegates and the popular vote.

The candidates face their next major test May 6, with primaries in Indiana and North Carolina.

Phil Trounstine, director of the Survey and Policy Research Institute at California's San Jose State University, said that Obama's problems with key Democratic demographic groups are temporary and say nothing about how he would fare with those voters in a general election.

"The notion that Obama cannot attract core constituencies is only being tested in matches against Hillary Clinton. That's not an argument that he can't win them against John McCain," Trounstine said. "If Barack Obama were the nominee, you would expect Ed Rendell and (Philadelphia mayor) Michael Nutter would work like crazy to deliver Pennsylvania. The same thing would happen in California and Texas, which Clinton also won."

After the drubbing he took in Pennsylvania, Obama needs to hope the so-called superdelegates likely charged with settling the contest will find that argument persuasive. Otherwise, what has been an epic Democratic nominating contest may be lurching toward virtual stalemate.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080423/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_analysis_3;_ylt=AiO92aFd0bpwrUmU4du5wrfSos4F
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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 11:07:37 AM »
. Otherwise, what has been an epic Democratic nominating contest may be lurching toward virtual stalemate.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080423/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_analysis_3;_ylt=AiO92aFd0bpwrUmU4du5wrfSos4F



As envisioned by Rush Limbaugh and his master plan , although this is working well for my favorite candidate, the manipulation of the process makes me queasy.

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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 01:10:58 PM »
"As envisioned by Rush Limbaugh and his master plan , although this is working well for my favorite candidate, the manipulation of the process makes me queasy"


OPERATION CHAOS IS WORKING ACCORDING TO PLAN!
 




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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 01:24:46 PM »
Someone should coat Rush Limbaugh liberally (how else) with Vaseline, and shove him up McCain's patoot.

I would settle for shoving him up his own patoot, Juniorbush's patoot, or even his own patoot until *blip* he vanishes from sight.

No party in history has ever deserved a defeat as greatly as the Republicans for foisting Juniorbush & Cheney upon this unfortunate country.
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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2008, 01:34:14 PM »
Come on Xo, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel       :D
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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 02:19:33 PM »
"No party in history has ever deserved a defeat as greatly as the
Republicans for foisting Juniorbush & Cheney upon this unfortunate country"


No other Presidential ticket in US history received
as many votes as did BUSH/CHENEY 2004.

Popular vote: 62,040,610
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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 02:29:17 PM »
Sounds like somebody has a patoot fixation.

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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 02:30:07 PM »
I guess Xo is really po'd at the electorate for choosing Bush over Kerry, and at the founders of this country, that had the electoral votes go for Bush against Gore.  

So I guess, Xo is irrationally angry at most of the country, alive & long dead
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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 02:45:35 PM »
No other Presidential ticket in US history received
as many votes as did BUSH/CHENEY 2004.

Popular vote: 62,040,610
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And never in the history of mankind have so many people exhibited their utter stupidity in such numbers.

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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2008, 02:57:07 PM »
Anger seems to be one of the symptoms of liberalsim. Another seems to be a fixation with the patoot, which explains all the shit they spew.

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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2008, 05:09:23 PM »
No other Presidential ticket in US history received as many votes as did BUSH/CHENEY 2004.  Popular vote: 62,040,610
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And never in the history of mankind have so many people exhibited their utter stupidity in such numbers.

I guess that qualifies Xo as one of those "bitter" folks, Obama was referring to     
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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2008, 05:15:16 PM »
Had I been a German in 1934, I would have felt exactly the same way about the election of Herr Hitler for delivering a plurality of votes to the Nazi Party. I would not consider this bitter at all.

Juniorbush did not win in 2000. Most Americans rejected his sorry, incompetent ass. In 2004, they should have rejected him most wholeheartedly. But like Der Deutsches Volk in 1934, they screwed up. They were really, really stupid. They should be ashamed of themselves, and regrettably, I shall have to pay for their imbecility, as Juniorbush has buggered the dollar and started a ghastly war that he lacks the ability to win. He will return to Crawford to pretend to be a former statesman, and we will have to clean up the repulsive barf that is his foul legacy.
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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2008, 05:17:49 PM »
Had I been a German in 1934, I would have felt exactly the same way about the election of Herr Hitler for delivering a plurality of votes to the Nazi Party.

"Herr Hitler" was never elected. Anywhere. Ever.
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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 05:19:28 PM »
Had I been a German in 1934, I would have felt exactly the same way about the election of Herr Hitler for delivering a plurality of votes to the Nazi Party. I would not consider this bitter at all.  Juniorbush did not win in 2000.

According to the Constitution, he did.  So, now your beef is not only with the majority of Americans, both alive & dead, now it's with the Constitution itself.  Yea, that would qualify you for a minimum of being bitter, though your obsessve perseverative insults aimed at Cheney & Bush were pretty much a give away



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Re: Why can't Obama close the deal?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2008, 10:47:23 PM »
>>According to the Constitution, he did.<<

You're not dealing with a rational person sirs. You're right, he's one of those people who clings to hatred of those who aren't like him.