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Re: With so much in the balance,...
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2008, 11:25:09 AM »
After a bombing , pipeline maintenence people would need to get busy.

But the people involved in delivery, pumping,refineing would be on a wait for the pipeline to be fixed.

The government would loose income .  All of these employers have had layoffs or late paychecks during the period after the overthrow of Saddam.

Because that countrys main industry is oil ,I wonder how many people there have no relations that depend on the oil industry at all.

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Re: With so much in the balance,...
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2008, 11:38:42 AM »
The government would loose income .  All of these employers have had layoffs or late paychecks during the period after the overthrow of Saddam.

Because that countrys main industry is oil ,I wonder how many people there have no relations that depend on the oil industry at all.
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Most of the best paying jobs were performed by members of the Ba'ath Party, and many of these were arrested and thrown out when the Americans arrived, during the de-Baathification period.

I imagine that there are a lot more people involved in commerce, education and other service jobs than in petroleum. The oil business is not job-intensive, certainly nothing like coal mining. A hole is drilled, the pump is put in pace, and since it runs on the same stuff it is pumping, it just sits there and bobs up and down, with very little human intervention for weeks on end. Maybe someone pops by once a week to siphon off some condensate or something, but it has been an automated operation for the past fifty years.

Oil extraction is labor intensive when they are setting up a derrick, drilling the well, hooking stuff up. Check out the number of cars in a refinery parking lot sometime: not too many. Refining is also largely automated.

 
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Re: With so much in the balance,...
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2008, 11:47:10 AM »
Refineries and pipeline maintenance are labor intensive.  Not to mention the jobs of loading the fuel onto tankers etc.  Petroleum based labor isn't solely based on production.

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Re: With so much in the balance,...
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2008, 07:22:14 PM »
The common people of Iraq benefit from robust oil sales , these prices for oil are well timed for Iriqui recovery , cleanup, repair and infrastructure creation.

Insurgents who blast a pipeline go home and find that their father is out of work untill the pipe is repaired.

That's an interesting assumption.

The common people of Chad or Nigeria have hardly seen anything for their nation's "robust oil sales." They use western technology and western oil firms come in and have done most of the  skilled construction and operations that go along with it. Why does your assumption fail in Chad and Nigeria?
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Re: With so much in the balance,...
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2008, 08:33:31 PM »
Equatorial Guinea has the worst disparity between the rulers and the ruled.

The capital is on an island several hundred miles from the mainland part of the country. The oil is on the mainland. So the people on the mainland get all the pollution, and the dictator on the island gets all the money.

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Re: With so much in the balance,...
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2008, 09:27:39 PM »
The common people of Iraq benefit from robust oil sales , these prices for oil are well timed for Iriqui recovery , cleanup, repair and infrastructure creation.

Insurgents who blast a pipeline go home and find that their father is out of work untill the pipe is repaired.

That's an interesting assumption.

The common people of Chad or Nigeria have hardly seen anything for their nation's "robust oil sales." They use western technology and western oil firms come in and have done most of the  skilled construction and operations that go along with it. Why does your assumption fail in Chad and Nigeria?

They still have their Saddam.