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NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« on: November 03, 2006, 02:12:27 PM »
Saddam Closer To Bomb Than Anyone Thought

by Oak Leaf on 11-02-06 @ 10:34 pm Filed under War On Terror, News

The New Yorks times confirms that in 2002 Saddam Hussein’s “scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away:”

Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990’s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.

Had the United States not eliminated this threat, today we would be facing a nuclear armed Iraq and possibly a nuclear armed Iran.

http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2006/11/02/saddam-closer-to-bomb-than-anyone-thought/

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2006, 02:16:05 PM »
Funny the inspectors did not find anything in 2003. We can't always believe what we read in the news paper, especially at election time.

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2006, 02:34:52 PM »
Funny the inspectors did not find anything in 2003. We can't always believe what we read in the news paper, especially at election time.


They found a lot in 92.

They were still finding alot till Saddam threw them out.

Why throw them out if they were on the verge of finding the last bit and getting those nasty sanctions lifted?

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2006, 07:02:37 PM »
Saddam Closer To Bomb Than Anyone Thought

by Oak Leaf on 11-02-06 @ 10:34 pm Filed under War On Terror, News

The New Yorks times confirms that in 2002 Saddam Hussein’s “scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away:”

Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990’s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.

Had the United States not eliminated this threat, today we would be facing a nuclear armed Iraq and possibly a nuclear armed Iran.

http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2006/11/02/saddam-closer-to-bomb-than-anyone-thought/


You guys are really desperate if you now believe the NYT! The real interesting part of the real story is how Bush helped Iran with Atomiic bomb plans!

Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency, fearing that the information could help states like Iran develop nuclear arms, had privately protested last week to the American ambassador to the agency, according to European diplomats who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity. One diplomat said the agency’s technical experts “were shocked” at the public disclosures.

Early this morning, a spokesman for Gregory L. Schulte, the American ambassador, denied that anyone from the agency had approached Mr. Schulte about the Web site.

The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs.

“For the U.S. to toss a match into this flammable area is very irresponsible,” said A. Bryan Siebert, a former director of classification at the federal Department of Energy, which runs the nation’s nuclear arms program. “There’s a lot of things about nuclear weapons that are secret and should remain so.”
LMFAO!

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?_r=1&ei=5094&en=1511d6b3da302d4f&hp=&ex=1162530000&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2006, 07:25:21 PM »
If this is done, it will be one of the most dispicable political ploys ever used by a sitting president. This should be a warning to all. A human sacrifice will be ordered two days before an election. Those of you who claim to know something about religion, should be appalled by this act of ritual sacrifice, as an inspiration to support the Bush Cult. It is sickening.

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2006, 07:41:20 PM »
If this is done, it will be one of the most dispicable political ploys ever used by a sitting president. This should be a warning to all. A human sacrifice will be ordered two days before an election. Those of you who claim to know something about religion, should be appalled by this act of ritual sacrifice, as an inspiration to support the Bush Cult. It is sickening.


How do you figure?

These are documents from Saddams Nuclear Program captured after the invasion of 2003.

Saddam had no real bomb program then did he?

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2006, 07:48:59 PM »
Your reply has nothing to do with this thread. The issue is a plot to use a Saddam verdict as a political ploy only two days before the election. Off course the attempt to change the focus of the thread is Parr for the course, it is a tipical ploy used by a few.

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2006, 07:57:13 PM »
Oops, my mistake, I thought you were replying to a different thread. :-\

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2006, 08:14:30 PM »
I do get confused.

Most times, GOPers think the NY Times is the source of all evil and the worst news source out there.

Hard to tell when they are and aren't to be relied on.

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2006, 03:19:08 AM »
I do get confused.  Most times, GOPers think the NY Times is the source of all evil and the worst news source out there.  Hard to tell when they are and aren't to be relied on.

Hey, I'll go on record and claim that they can't, for pretty much all materials aimed at Bush & the GOP.  Granted a broken clock is correct twice a day.  Does that clear up any confusion?
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2006, 03:54:47 AM »

If this is done, it will be one of the most dispicable political ploys ever used by a sitting president. This should be a warning to all. A human sacrifice will be ordered two days before an election. Those of you who claim to know something about religion, should be appalled by this act of ritual sacrifice, as an inspiration to support the Bush Cult. It is sickening.



How do you figure?

These are documents from Saddams Nuclear Program captured after the invasion of 2003.

Saddam had no real bomb program then did he?

Your reply has nothing to do with this thread. The issue is a plot to use a Saddam verdict as a political ploy only two days before the election. Off course the attempt to change the focus of the thread is Parr for the course, it is a tipical ploy used by a few.


Saddams nuclear program was real , we still do not know exactly when it ended.

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2006, 01:23:34 AM »
<<Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.>>

Funny, but I read the article you linked to.  It was very hard to tell what parts of that page claimed to be from an original NYT article and what parts were comments on the article posted by various right-wing nutjobs.  Following the article was literally a forest of further links ( a couple of dozen at least) to other articles.

Nowhere in all that jumble of confused rambling bullshit was there one single quote from an identifiable expert who claimed that Saddam's scientists were on the verge of building a workable coin-operated pay toilet, let alone an atom bomb, let alone an atom bomb as little as a year away.

Maybe you would like to go back to the article and repost the part of it that actually quotes an "expert" saying what you claim the expert said. 

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2006, 01:43:59 PM »
This is it: "Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq had abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."

It's a great thing that Saddam was sentenced to death, and not still in power.


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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2006, 01:53:01 PM »
<<This is it: "Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq had abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.">>

But that's exactly what I meant.  Who are those "experts?"  The article does not quote ONE single authority on the subject.  Not a single name.  For all we know, those "experts" could owe their degrees in physics to the Bob Jones University of the Ozarks.

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Re: NY Times: Saddam would have had Atom bomb in a year
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2006, 02:02:39 PM »
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Who are those "experts?"

Since when in the mind of liberals are the names of experts a critical factor?

Doesn't seem to be when they quote anomynous high level administration officials who always seem to offer opinions that often coincide with the talking point of the day.