Good Health for Less

[Michael Tee]

http://www.science.gc.ca/default.asp?Lang=En&n=94DF84A8-1

Article on the Massassauga Rattler.  There's a picture, too.  Cute little guy.

[Plane]

<<http://www.hsus.org/wildlife/a_closer_look_at_wildlife/snakes/rattlesnakes.html


<<Looks as if I was wrong about the snakes.>>

Thanks for the link.  I didn't recognize the names of any of the rattlers in the page, but I figured the Western or Prairie Rattlesnake, since it was the only one that was said to have a habitat in southern Canada, was the one that I must have been referring to.  The term I'm used to hearing is Massassauga Rattler, which I don't think was mentioned in your link.  If I get a minute I will look it up for you.

<<Still If someone told me that I could live two more years if I became Canadian , I would not be tempted.>>

You don't want the extra two years or you don't like the idea of being a Canadian?

 

If becomeing Canadian was the price I wouldnt make the deal for less than twenty.

[Amianthus]

The term I'm used to hearing is Massassauga Rattler, which I don't think was mentioned in your link.  If I get a minute I will look it up for you.

The Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake (Sistrurus catenatus catenatus) is not lethal to adult humans. While it's venom would be lethal, the volume that one snake can introduce is too little to kill a normal adult. It can also control it's venom injection, and many human bites do not show the presence of any venom, so it's likely that since it doesn't consider humans prey and usually does not use it's venom on them. It's an endangered species in the US, but it's range does extend into southern Ontario.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake (Sistrurus catenatus catenatus) is not lethal to adult humans. While it's venom would be lethal, the volume that one snake can introduce is too little to kill a normal adult.

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As I said, rattlesnakes are not much of a threat to the health of many people. I doubt that hookworms are, either.

The most lethal aspect of living in Canada is that there it is easier to freeze to death.

Of course, another advantage is that since Canada has only one tenth of the population of the US, one's vote counts for ten times as much.

Electorally, each Canadian is TEN TIMES as powerful as any American.

Of course, every Costa Rican is a HUNDRED TIMES more powerful, electorally speaking.

Plus in Canada and Costa Rica, there is no Mickeymouse Electoral College, either.

[Michael Tee]

<<If becomeing Canadian was the price I wouldnt make the deal for less than twenty.>>

Come down to ten and we'll throw in some free French lessons and a snowblower.

[Michael Tee]

<<The Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake (Sistrurus catenatus catenatus) is not lethal to adult humans.>>

Shit.  Even in venomous snakes, we gotta take a backseat to our southern neighbours.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Shit.  Even in venomous snakes, we gotta take a backseat to our southern neighbours.


Canada has lots more polar bears, and they are meaner and bigger, aren't they?
They also make more impressive rugs.

[Michael Tee]

<<Canada has lots more polar bears, and they are meaner and bigger, aren't they?
They also make more impressive rugs.>>

[Brightening up]  Yeah, and more grizzlies too.

[Amianthus]

Saskatchewan Home Security

[Xavier_Onassis]

I am pretty sure that Canada also has badgers and wolverines, which are also vile-tempered critters.

[Plane]

http://www.science.gc.ca/default.asp?Lang=En&n=94DF84A8-1

Article on the Massassauga Rattler.  There's a picture, too.  Cute little guy.

The smallest population numbers less than one-hundred... The largest... perhaps in the thousands.

An endangered species?

The real point is that there are a lot of differing conditions , not just our health care , what happened to bring these two nations so close together in life expectancy?

Two and a half years isn't much more than the margin of error.

[Plane]

The Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake (Sistrurus catenatus catenatus) is not lethal to adult humans. While it's venom would be lethal, the volume that one snake can introduce is too little to kill a normal adult.

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As I said, rattlesnakes are not much of a threat to the health of many people. I doubt that hookworms are, either.

The most lethal aspect of living in Canada is that there it is easier to freeze to death.

Of course, another advantage is that since Canada has only one tenth of the population of the US, one's vote counts for ten times as much.

Electorally, each Canadian is TEN TIMES as powerful as any American.

Of course, every Costa Rican is a HUNDRED TIMES more powerful, electorally speaking.

Plus in Canada and Costa Rica, there is no Mickeymouse Electoral College, either.

Not really , I may be a smaller purportion of the total but it is a bigger total.

I can vote in mayoral and state wide elections in which my percent of power is close to the purportion in Costa Rica and Canada.

But my home town has more military power than Costa Rica and my state has more military power than Canada.


The really pitiful representative cases are the EU and the UN. Individual votes really don't count for much there.

[Michael Tee]

<<Two and a half years isn't much more than the margin of error.>>

It's a pretty consistent margin of error.  And it's consistent with the other indicators as well.  ALL of them indicated that Canadians are healthier. 

To be fair, there are differences in weather and climate.  Since 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the U.S. border, I guess it might be a fairer comparison to check our averages against the averages for Americans who also live within 100 miles of the border.

I also think racism plays a big role which is rarely discussed.  There are lots of black Americans who despite all the bullshit about America's "progress" in combating racism, are still highly disadvantaged by the colour of their skin and are consequently barred in one way or another from participating in the system.

I would agree, that the stats are a pretty crude way of measuring the effectiveness of the system.  The thing that impresses me the most is the sterling care that I myself received, and it was all free, so it's available to the poorest of our citizens.  To me, that is pretty damn amazing.  Everyone from top to bottom gets the same care, nobody left out in the cold and nobody forced to accept care as charity.  We respect not only the health but the dignity of our fellow citizens.  We are the best.  There is no comparison.

[Plane]

<<Two and a half years isn't much more than the margin of error.>>

It's a pretty consistent margin of error.  And it's consistent with the other indicators as well.  ALL of them indicated that Canadians are healthier. 

To be fair, there are differences in weather and climate.  Since 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the U.S. border, I guess it might be a fairer comparison to check our averages against the averages for Americans who also live within 100 miles of the border.

I also think racism plays a big role which is rarely discussed.  There are lots of black Americans who despite all the bullshit about America's "progress" in combating racism, are still highly disadvantaged by the colour of their skin and are consequently barred in one way or another from participating in the system.

I would agree, that the stats are a pretty crude way of measuring the effectiveness of the system.  The thing that impresses me the most is the sterling care that I myself received, and it was all free, so it's available to the poorest of our citizens.  To me, that is pretty damn amazing.  Everyone from top to bottom gets the same care, nobody left out in the cold and nobody forced to accept care as charity.  We respect not only the health but the dignity of our fellow citizens.  We are the best.  There is no comparison.

Congradulations , but even if it is flawless for Canada , it might still be a problem for the USA. We do need to learn from the example of other countrys , not assumeing that we can adopt such a system whole.

[Plane]

MT just made a good suggestion.

Does anyone know how to isolate the US population portion that lives close to the Canadian Border and learn their longivity and infant mortality?

Or something usefull about them yankies?