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Michael Tee

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FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« on: October 07, 2008, 03:53:00 PM »
But they're not structured the way I wanted them.  Schmucks.  I had the perfect ending for the ads and tried to e-mail the campaign but the only contact portals were ones that facilitated submission of funds.  They are totally closed to the submission of new ideas unaccompanied by money.  I would have made a donation just to get my ideas through the door, but that would have been illegal.

If any of you Obama supporters have access to the campaign, give'em my ideas for the K5 ad, I don't give a shit if I ever get credit for it or not, but it's a guaranteed knock-out punch.

Three Parts: 
1.  Elderly Americans who lost their life savings.  Better yet their sons and daughters , telling how ol' Pa slaved away his life for some company (BEST BET! - some company associated with Cindy's family or Bush's) AND THEN the last years of his LIFE were ruined when McCain's best buddy Chuck made off with the life savings.  How Pa never got over it.  How the retirement home in Clearwater Beach was lost to the Bank and he died in poverty.  [photos of McCain and Chuck living the good life together]

2.  Chuck & McCain - backed up with more photos of their trips on Keating's private jet, on his private island, private golf course, etc.  THEN what McCain did for Keating:  FIVE TIMES met with government regulators, FIVE TIMES pleaded with them to cut Chuck more slack, etc.

3.  Conclusions:  Is THIS MAN (photo: Chuck & McCain) the man you want to rein in the financial industry for you?   (sudden sardonic mocking laughter in background)   Is THIS man someone you'd trust with your life savings?  (background:  Huh?  TRUST him?  What?)

The U.S. Senate Ethics Committee (sneering emphasis on word "Ethics") thinks he showed bad judgment [use exact wording, sneer voice when actual Ethics Committee words are used]  What do YOU think about his conduct?

I bet this could KILL the little weasel.  Kill him daid.

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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 04:45:35 PM »
Finally, we can show the electorate that
A) McCain was cleared of impropriety but simply criticized for poor judgment
B) McCain publically proclaimed that all those many years ago, he did show poor judgement and learned from his mistake, 20+ years ago

Now, remind us again, when was Obama's last get together with Ayers again?  Wright?  Frank Raines?
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 06:24:10 PM »
Finally, we can show the electorate that
A) McCain was cleared of impropriety but simply criticized for poor judgment
B) McCain publically proclaimed that all those many years ago, he did show poor judgement and learned from his mistake, 20+ years ago

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Hopefully Obama will do the ads right, show the victims and their stories first, then the close association with Keating, and then ask the audience themselves if they think the Senate "Ethics" Committee "cleared" or "whitewashed" McCain.  Let THEM decide for themselves, not the "Ethics" Committee of the Senate (which has what, 20% approval rating?) if McCain was whitewashed of more serious crimes.



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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 06:27:22 PM »
The gloves do seem to be coming off.



I don't think that the candidates should be responsible for what an audience member might say.

But making it all meaner is done consciously.

Be aware of what you have wished for when you wind up getting it.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/mccain-does-nothing-as-cr_n_132366.html


The Washington Post reported on a similar moment at a Palin rally on Monday:

"Now it turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," Palin said.

"Boooo!" said the crowd.

"And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,'" she continued.

"Boooo!" the crowd repeated.

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/mccain-on-tuesday-preside_n_132653.html
Everyone expects tonight's debate to be a slug-fest since John McCain and Sarah Palin turned up the heat in the last couple of days with nasty, personal attacks aimed at Barack Obama. Governor Palin 'advised' Senator McCain to "take the gloves off" during a conversation with NY Times columnist William Kristol. McCain predicted that the gloves would come off during an event last week:

With just four weeks left until Election Day, Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain are preparing to face off in Tuesday night's high-stakes presidential debate.


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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 06:28:59 PM »
Finally, we can show the electorate that
A) McCain was cleared of impropriety, simply criticized for poor judgment
B) McCain publically proclaimed that all those many years ago, he did show poor judgement and learned from his mistake, 20+ years ago

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Hopefully Obama will do the ads right

If he did them "right", it'd demonstrate the above 2 points  If he wants to completely pervert and distort the facts & truth, in order for the ads to accomplish what you want, then he can look forward to reinforcing his position, as just being like every other DC poilitician

I notice the ommission of Obama's last meetings with messers Ayers, Wright, and Raines.  Not surprising


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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 06:29:11 PM »
Now, remind us again, when was Obama's last get together with Ayers again?  Wright?  Frank Raines?

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THis assumes that Obama meeting with any of these people was as unethical as McCain's meeting with Keating. I dont see that this is the case. If you do, please explain how. Do you think Obama was going out to lob bombs with Ayers? A preachathon with Wright?

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 06:30:44 PM »
Finally, we can show the electorate that
A) McCain was cleared of impropriety but simply criticized for poor judgment
B) McCain publically proclaimed that all those many years ago, he did show poor judgement and learned from his mistake, 20+ years ago

=================================================================

Hopefully Obama will do the ads right, show the victims and their stories first, then the close association with Keating, and then ask the audience themselves if they think the Senate "Ethics" Committee "cleared" or "whitewashed" McCain.  Let THEM decide for themselves, not the "Ethics" Committee of the Senate (which has what, 20% approval rating?) if McCain was whitewashed of more serious crimes.




The Ethics committee that was chaired by the majority Democrats?
The same committee that censured some Democrats involved much more strongly?

Yes lets examine that publicly!


You have mistaken a strength for a weakness.

It would be very good for McCain to have the Keating affair fully aired.


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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 06:33:56 PM »
Now, remind us again, when was Obama's last get together with Ayers again?  Wright?  Frank Raines?

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THis assumes that Obama meeting with any of these people was as unethical as McCain's meeting with Keating. I dont see that this is the case. If you do, please explain how. Do you think Obama was going out to lob bombs with Ayers? A preachathon with Wright?



I would have to guess it was more recent than the last time that McCain had lunch with Keating. Rezco was the one to mention because that was more unethical than the McCain ,Keating relationship . The relationship with Wright and Ayers is not so much unethical as  examples of poor judgement.

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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2008, 06:37:21 PM »
<<The Ethics committee that was chaired by the majority Democrats?
<<The same committee that censured some Democrats involved much more strongly?>>

Simple question for the viewers:  The Ethics Ctee. [sneer in voice as "ethics" is pronounced]  says McCain was only guilty of poor judgment.  [second sneer at "poor judgment"]  What do YOU think he was guilty of?

plane, that would fucking kill him.

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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2008, 06:39:33 PM »
Now, remind us again, when was Obama's last get together with Ayers again?  Wright?  Frank Raines?

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THis assumes that Obama meeting with any of these people was as unethical as McCain's meeting with Keating.

No, it assumes Obama's meetings with these people were FAR more recent, than McCain's with Keating.  Raines is Obama's chief economic advisor, for goodness sake.  If this were McCain, and his chief economic advisor were the CEO of AIG, he'd be 24/7 MSM toast.  But yea, they'd be just as unethical as well, multiplied 3x.  And this doesn't even include Rezco


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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2008, 06:45:01 PM »
<<The Ethics committee that was chaired by the majority Democrats?
<<The same committee that censured some Democrats involved much more strongly?>>

Simple question for the viewers:  The Ethics Ctee. [sneer in voice as "ethics" is pronounced]  says McCain was only guilty of poor judgment.  [second sneer at "poor judgment"]  What do YOU think he was guilty of?

plane, that would fucking kill him.


You are knifing Obama in the back.

I love it.

Being cleared by the ETHICS COMMITTEE chaired and composed of DEMOCRATS?

This would be like Giap saying Westmorland  is honest.
This would be like Pope Leo saying Atilla  is honest.
This would be like Tojo saying MacArthur  is honest.

That is what it is , and I don't mind it.

It would be excellent to have this noised abroad , you are hitting him where McCain is strong and OBAMA is weak.

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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2008, 06:47:09 PM »
What illegal activities do you accuse Obama of doing with Ayers? Ayers has not thrown a bomb in decades.

What illegal activities did he commit with Raines or Wright?  I have not seen that any of them has been accused of doing anything illegal.
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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2008, 06:47:36 PM »
Touche', Plane      8)
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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2008, 06:52:14 PM »
What illegal activities do you accuse Obama of doing with Ayers? Ayers has not thrown a bomb in decades.

What illegal activities did he commit with Raines or Wright?  I have not seen that any of them has been accused of doing anything illegal.

You are getting mixed up , McCain is not even accused of anything illegal.

Ayers is not off the hook because of a statute of limitations , but because the prosecution was clumsy , he admits guilt but is protected from double jeopardy.

It is Rezco who is in jail, and Obama who took his graft, Raines and Wright are not illegal in any respect , merely foolish.

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Re: FINALLY!!!! Obama is bringing out his Keating Five ads
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 07:01:03 PM »
plane, do you get that the approval rating of Congress (both houses) is down to about 20%?

Do you think this is going to translate into great respect for the decisions of Congress or any of its committees, including its "Ethics" Ctee.?

My bet is that when Joe Six-Pack is asked, "The Senate "Ethics" Committee gave McCain a "pass," what would YOU give him?" that the answer will be something sterner than the "Ethics" Committee had in mind.

People are a lot more pissed off about politicians cozying up to big-time white-collar criminals than you might imagine.  Keating ripped off a lot of Americans of their life savings.  He's a much bigger crook than Rezco.