EXPOSED: GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS!

[Plane]

The anti choice people are led by the Roman Catholic Church, which is also against birth control.

  Does this mean that there is no reason to consider scientific reasons to oppose killing children in the womb?

   There are a lot of such things , like evidence that Fetus do dream , have a sleep cycle , suck their thumbs , react to sound , feel pain etc....

How many women have been jailed for having abortions in violation of any law? ZERO.

Does this fact not undercut the argument that the intent is against women?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Just let the women decide. There is no reason not to do this. They have a greater claim to their bodies than the government does.

[sirs]

They can do whatever they want to their bodies......as long as it doesn't impact the life of another body.  Period

[Plane]

Just let the women decide. There is no reason not to do this. They have a greater claim to their bodies than the government does.

How would this argument prevent waiting periods?

There is a government interest in protecting persons from murder, that a child is not a person under certain circumstances is a legal conceit.

If there can be improvement in prevention of rape , or control of ovulation I would call these real improvement in the control women have over their bodies , and I would applaud.

But since when has any persons control of his own body been absolute?

The government hasn't given up the right to draft us into soldiers yet has it?

The governments right to demand that a woman and a doctor not commit murder does not seem seriously unreasonable , even if the woman's standard of living is improved and the doctor makes a fortune.

[Xavier_Onassis]

It seems entirely unreasonable to me.

You cannot prevent abortions.  A determined woman with resources can easily go somewhere where she can have an abortion done with impunity.

Poorer women will resort to coathangers.

You only want to punish women for being poor.

Which is par for the course for rightwing assholes such as yourselves.

I have no idea why you keep harping on this crap. You will never change my mind, and it would make no fucking difference if you could.

[sirs]

It seems entirely unreasonable to me.

You cannot prevent abortions. 

Just as you can not prevent murders.  Who ever claimed we could.  So, because we can't prevent all murders, we justify it, by calling the victim some name, and that's supposed to clear everyone's conscience??  Seriously??  So, if we designate someone we'd rather not see walking this earth as....a Homo Sapien, rather then a person, its ok then to murder them??  That's what truly sounds unreasonable

And no one here is trying to "change your mind", Dr Deflection.  Just highlighting the errors of your rationalization process, for all others to see.  Any light-bulb of reasoning finally going off would simply be a bonus

[Xavier_Onassis]

Go suck an egg, you drooling knucklewalking imbecile.

[sirs]

lol....priceless debate from a learned leftest professor     

[Xavier_Onassis]

For all to see.

Some days no one bothers to read anything here. 

George Stephanopolous  has a right to donate his money to whomever he wishes.
You have not exposed him here to anyone, and no one could do anything to him if you had.

The only thing you reveal here is that you are an obsessed idiot on some sort of demented ego trip.

[sirs]

While other days we have multiple visitors viewing our saloon.  My comments are specific towards those folks

[Plane]

I have no idea why you keep harping on this crap. You will never change my mind, and it would make no fucking difference if you could.

    Changing your mind just can't be the point.

      The whole thing would be disappointing.

         Composing cogent argument is an exercise worth doing.

            I appreciate your heartfelt opposition, it is too bad we can't disagree more.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I will never have an abortion, it is physically impossible. I am very unlikely to have anything to do with an abortion.

[sirs]

Which is completely irrelevent to anything in this thread, nor makes any sense.  You have never been in the military or intend on enlisting.  Does that defacto mean you can't make any comments, criticisms or observations towards the military?  You've never been a politician or ran for public office.  Does that mean anything you say regarding politics is null & void, and should not be considered??