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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2011, 11:15:52 PM »
No BT....but I think you are missing the point.

That article is basically in jest....it is saying
if you want to use an idiotic definition then
that same idiotic definition can be turned
against you. The key word again being
"idiotic definition".



No I'm not missing the point.
http://tinyurl.com/4q9gfwq

But i also linked a second article from that same right wing site which probably is not tongue in cheek, nor is the update to the original article you posted.

Update -- Keith Olbermann at least understands that he is far from without sin when it comes to rhetoric. HuffPo:

    He concluded his special comment [yesterday] with this powerful statement, including an apology for his own actions: "Violence, or the threat of violence, has no place in our Democracy, and I apologize for and repudiate any act or any thing in my past that may have even inadvertently encouraged violence. Because for whatever else each of us may be, we all are Americans."

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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2011, 11:35:02 PM »
Quote from: ChristiansUnited4LessGvt on Today at 10:14:11 PM
SIRS.....I don't like BT's style
In my mind he has a passive-defeatist style

Both articles I posted are responses to the national media Left
that quickly attempted to use this tragedy for political gain.

BT wants this assault by the Left to basically go unchallenged
so he can say "well only side is doing it".....
but I think it is
important to not allow only one side to be heard. What the
hell does BT want to do while the Left tries to sell to the
American public that this is Sarah Palin's fault or the Tea Party's fault?
Why not say "using your asinine logic Tim Matthews the Left is just as much
or in my mind more at fault". I like offense.....I like to run the ball down
a bully's freakin gut...punch back harder!.....BT wants to stand around on defense....
I'm with Sean Hannity, Beck, Rush, Michelle Malkin that are going to challenge
the bullshit the Left tries at every inch....being nice gets Obamas elected.


Where did i ever say that.

In fact i said just the opposite

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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2011, 11:51:35 PM »
But i also linked a second article from that same right wing site which probably
is not tongue in cheek, nor is the update to the original article you posted.

Sure the Right is going to punch back! Why shouldn't it?
Stand around on defense....let the enemy stay on offense....whats the score at the end of that game?
I was responding to you saying "CU4 posted the American Thinker article blaming Kos for the shooting" ".
That is in fact not true. The article intent is to point out idiotic logic from the Left with analogous examples.
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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2011, 12:00:11 AM »
And the second article i linked to?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/the_left_not_the_right_owns_po.html

From the same site, which i believe is a right wing blog. In case Sirs is looking for more examples.

But you didn't answer where i claimed the right should not respond to the blood libel from the left.

Fact is they (the right) have their shit together a whole lot better now than they did when they got slammed after Katrina.

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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2011, 12:06:35 AM »
Where did i ever say that.

"It is not surprising that both sides out of the gate were wanting to point their fingers at the others"

More of the typical BT "well we are guilty"...both sides are equally guilty moral equivalence.
Massive assault by the left major media and when it is met with a response BT says "well both sides are at fault".
BT do you not get that KRAMER is not equal to the New York Times columnist Paul Krugman?
Sure BT Kramer blamed a Lib and Krugman read by millions blamed Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.
Do you not see the difference?
Kramer is read by a dozen people and Krugman by millions all over the globe.
Can you supply sources of anyone on the Right of Krugman's stature blaming Liberals from the moments after this tragedy?
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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2011, 12:06:59 AM »
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Stand around on defense....let the enemy stay on offense....whats the score at the end of that game?

Defense is taking down the target map. I don't believe i advocated that. And your position was?

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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2011, 12:19:14 AM »
"Defense is taking down the target map"

No it's not...it is in good taste to take down an LA Police billboard
that reads "LA Police Serve & Protect" that may have been
at the corner where the LA Police almost beat Rodney King to death.




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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2011, 12:21:48 AM »
Where did i ever say that.

"It is not surprising that both sides out of the gate were wanting to point their fingers at the others"

More of the typical BT "well we are guilty"...both sides are equally guilty moral equivalence.
Massive assault by the left major media and when it is met with a response BT says "well both sides are at fault".
BT do you not get that KRAMER is not equal to the New York Times columnist Paul Krugman?
Sure BT Kramer blamed a Lib and Krugman read by millions blamed Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.
Do you not see the difference?
Kramer is read by a dozen people and Krugman by millions all over the globe.
Can you supply sources of anyone on the Right of Krugman's stature blaming Liberals from the moments after this tragedy?


Are you fucking kidding me?

Three simple sentences.
I don't think it is the fault of conservatives, nor do i think it is the fault of liberals.
Translated for the reading impaired. The conservatives did not pull the trigger. The liberals did not pull the trigger.

I think it is Loughners fault.
Loughner pulled the trigger.

It is not surprising that both sides out of the gate were wanting to point their fingers at the others.

Kramer is of the right and he blamed the left. And the left blamed the right.
So where was my statement wrong.

And you took that to mean that i don't think the right should push back against this blood libel from the left?

How in the world did you come to that conclusion.

And would someone explain to me how Loughner got a gun permit with the legal run ins he has had.
No wonder the Sheriff is shifting the blame.









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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2011, 12:23:11 AM »
"Defense is taking down the target map"

No it's not...it is in good taste to take down an LA Police billboard
that reads "LA Police Serve & Protect" that may have been
at the corner where the LA Police almost beat Rodney King to death.






So you are saying it is not the Police's mission to protect and serve in neighborhoods that Rodney King might frequent?

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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #84 on: January 11, 2011, 12:33:39 AM »
"Are you fucking kidding me?"

No I am fucking not!...lol

It is not surprising that both sides out of the gate were wanting to point their fingers at the others.

More of the moral equivalence crap!
Can you not help yourself?
One side has a worldwide megaphone and you compare that to Krugman and imply....yeah dats bout equal guilt!

Kramer is of the right and he blamed the left. And the left blamed the right.
So where was my statement wrong.


Did you not read my Krugman analogy?
Yeah BT Charles Manson and a jaywalker both break the law...so yep...lets lump 'em together as "LAW BREAKERS"!  ::)
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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #85 on: January 11, 2011, 12:39:47 AM »
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Did you not read my Krugman analogy?
Yeah BT Charles Manson and a jaywalker both break the law...so yep...lets lump 'em together as "LAW BREAKERS"!  Roll Eyes

Can you not help yourself?
One side has a worldwide megaphone and you compare that to Krugman and imply....yeah dats bout equal guilt!

So the left is better than the right when it comes to playing the blame game because they are louder and more numerous or what? Is that your point?
 ::)

I don't believe i quantified guilt, what i said was that both sides would fingerpoint. And they did.

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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #86 on: January 11, 2011, 12:43:19 AM »
So you are saying it is not the Police's mission to protect and serve in neighborhoods
that Rodney King might frequent?

I am saying you might pull a Sunday Newspaper ad like
"Come and Enjoy A Safe Day With the Family At Six Flags Over Texas"
the day after a Six Flags employee shooting that kills a group of people at Six Flags Over Georgia.
It's called good taste....even though the incident is not connected to Six Flags Over Texas.


I am saying a Police billboard proclaiming their Serve & Protect motto
would be in poor taste on the corner where the NY Cop had just
shoved a broom stick up the anus of a citizen. It's called good taste.
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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2011, 12:48:51 AM »
So the left is better than the right when it comes to playing the blame game because they are louder and more numerous or what?
Is that your point?


My point is the Leftwing media quickly reacted to take political advantage of a tragedy.
Are they better at this sleaze?
Yeah I think so.

I don't believe i quantified guilt, what i said was that both sides would fingerpoint. And they did.

I know you didnt qualify it....thats my point....you see Manson as a lawbreaker and a jaywalker as a lawbreaker and
conclude they are both lawbreakers.....and leave it at that...and that is of course true....they are both lawbreakers!
But the proof is always in the details.

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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #88 on: January 11, 2011, 12:56:07 AM »
So you are saying it is not the Police's mission to protect and serve in neighborhoods
that Rodney King might frequent?

I am saying you might pull a Sunday Newspaper ad like
"Come and Enjoy A Safe Day With the Family At Six Flags Over Texas"
the day after a Six Flags employee shooting that kills a group of people at Six Flags Over Georgia.
It's called good taste....even though the incident is not connected to Six Flags Over Texas.


I am saying a Police billboard proclaiming their Serve & Protect motto
would be in poor taste on the corner where the NY Cop had just
shoved a broom stick up the anus of a citizen. It's called good taste.

Sounds symbolic to me.

I say leave both ads and billboards up and get the message out that you are redoubling your efforts to deliver on your promises.


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Re: AZ Congresswomen Shot, betcha a Lib did it!
« Reply #89 on: January 11, 2011, 12:59:46 AM »
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they are both lawbreakers.....and leave it at that...and that is of course true....they are both lawbreakers!

Thank you.

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I know you didnt qualify it....thats my point

And i happen to agree that the left came out the gate hard. But that doesn't change the truthfulness of my original statement.

And i still don't see where you got i said that the right should not push back.