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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #150 on: April 28, 2011, 02:27:19 PM »
Isn't she the Florida woman, irrepairably brain damaged, in a constant persistive vegetative state?  Lemme google really fast, perhaps I have the wrong person in mind.........Ooop, my bad, wrong person.  Yea, Government sure dropped the ball on that one.  Which ........ I have no idea why you've brought her up now.   

Scott, I see, was charged with 2 counts of murder.  OK, you're helping to reinforce my point again.

Your point was that governments role was to protect. How'd that work out for Laci and her unborn?

My point was that governments role was to govern through laws and enforce those laws.

Which is pretty much what happened to Scott Peterson.

I'm pretty sure my point was made and yours wasn't.





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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #151 on: April 28, 2011, 02:43:19 PM »
I have no idea why you've brought her up now.   Scott, I see, was charged with 2 counts of murder.  OK, you're helping to reinforce my point again.

Your point was that governments role was to protect. How'd that work out for Laci and her unborn?

Not quite.  I've said...ALL ALONG...that a primary function is to protect its citizenry, not your misrepresenting it into some form of cradle <--> grave 24/7 security service.  I even provided you, at your request, an even greater detailing of that goal.  How it worked out for Laci was how it works out for most murder victims......not so good.  And the fact the husband was charged with 2 counts of murder reinforces my point all the more


My point was that governments role was to govern through laws and enforce those laws.


Your point was to dodge your consistent inconsistency, using your now standard use of deflective semantics and misrepresentation of my position(s).  That although you choose to accept RvW version of when an unborn child can be considered a person, vs your own determination, even then, they don't receive the protection of government. 

But fear not, we've now uncovered that the primary role of Government, per Bt, is to punish, not protect, which gets you off the hook of your inconsistency......I suppose


I'm pretty sure my point was made and yours wasn't.

I'm pretty sure, quite the contrary
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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #152 on: April 28, 2011, 03:34:58 PM »
The FBI keeps statistics on how badly the Government achieves this alleged primary directive of yours that they protect its citizenry. And i would say based on that that either they are failing miserably at achieving this goal, or it wasn't the goal to begin with.




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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #153 on: April 28, 2011, 04:25:11 PM »
Being that youre insisting on characterizing my position as what its not, I guess we're done here.  Remember that reference I made about misrepresenting done as a purposeful act?  Minus any pending effort at misrepresenting that position, I thank you for reinforcing that point as well
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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #154 on: April 28, 2011, 04:59:41 PM »
Being that youre insisting on characterizing my position as what its not, I guess we're done here.  Remember that reference I made about misrepresenting done as a purposeful act?  Minus any pending effort at misrepresenting that position, I thank you for reinforcing that point as well

You certainly said governments role was to protect. I gave numerous reasons that the founders did not have that in mind when they crafted the constitution. And you really haven't disputed the points i made. From the purpose of the second amendment to their distaste for a standing army, to the FBI crime statistics that are released yearly. If their role is to protect, they have failed miserably.

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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #155 on: April 28, 2011, 05:25:11 PM »
A primary function in fact.  I also referenced what the Bill of Rights, and in particular what 2nd amendment is all about.  YOU, on the otherhand took it to the ludicrous notion of some 24/7 security force, not to mention that radical misrepresenting my position on the 2nd amendment as well. 

I'm pretty fed up with your continued misrepresentation efforts.  But I suppose, when your position on abortion has been exposed for its inconsistency, I guess we should come to expect that from you, from now on, when any position of yours has been shown to be...."shaky".  That's unfortunate, given that you are one of those that sets a primary example for others to follow 
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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #156 on: April 28, 2011, 06:11:50 PM »
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A primary function in fact.

Could you give examples of this primary function at work.

Pearl Harbor one of your examples?

How about 9-11?

or Border Security.

I'll even settle for the article in the constitution that says that protecting citizens is the primary function of government.


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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #157 on: April 28, 2011, 06:18:24 PM »
Wes, you can list all the battles we've lost and all the terroist attacks that got thru.  There are far more we could list as accomplishments, WWII in partciular, as well as terrorists attacks that were foiled.  But what's the point.  You're going to continue to mispresent what I've said, regardless of how many times I keep correcting you, and I'm fed up with it
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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #158 on: April 28, 2011, 06:44:44 PM »
Wes, you can list all the battles we've lost and all the terroist attacks that got thru.  There are far more we could list as accomplishments, WWII in partciular, as well as terrorists attacks that were foiled.  But what's the point.  You're going to continue to mispresent what I've said, regardless of how many times I keep correcting you, and I'm fed up with it

oh boo hoo

Did you or did you not say the primary function of government was to protect its citizens?

Yes or NO.

Would this protection be offered around the clock or only during banking hours?

If around the clock, would this protection be offered to all citizens regardless of age?

If all citizens regardless of age, then how did i misrepresent what you said when i restated your claim to mean provide security from cradle to grave.

And who is Wes?



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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #159 on: April 28, 2011, 07:11:49 PM »
Yes, you can list all the battles we've lost and all the terrorist attacks that got thru.  There are far more we could list as accomplishments, WWII in partciular, as well as terrorists attacks that were foiled.  But what's the point.  You're going to continue to mispresent what I've said, regardless of how many times I keep correcting you, and I'm fed up with it

Did you or did you not say the primary function of government was to protect its citizens?

Yes or NO.


Yes, for the nth time, but to correct your repetative error yet again, I said it is ONE OF THE, IF NOT THE PRIMARY FUNCTION.....and did I equate that to some federal mandate of 24/7 cradle <--> grave security,?  NO.  That was YOUR 6 level to Kevin Bacon misrepresentation


And who is Wes?

Wes is a typo... Yes is what was meant to be typed
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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #160 on: April 28, 2011, 07:15:27 PM »
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Yes, for the nth time, but to correct your repetative error yet again, I said it is ONE OF THE, IF NOT THE PRIMARY FUNCTION.....and did I equate that to some federal mandate of 24/7 cradle <--> grave security,?  NO.  That was YOUR 6 level to Kevin Bacon misrepresentation

So this protection, this primary function, is only part time?

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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #161 on: April 28, 2011, 07:22:45 PM »
It is a function of government, if not the primary function.  That doesn't make it some personal security agency, that surrounds each and every person with bullet proof bubble wrap, and armed escort everytime you leave your home.  End of story....end of misrepresenting my position
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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #162 on: April 28, 2011, 07:28:11 PM »
It is a function of government, if not the primary function.  That doesn't make it some personal security agency, that surrounds each and every person with bullet proof bubble wrap, and armed escort everytime you leave your home.  End of story....end of misrepresenting my position

So Laci Petersons unborn viable child didn't qualify for protection anyways. Because when we say the governments primary function is to protect its citizens we don't mean every citizen, we mean just the ones the government can get to, as time permits. Gotcha

Geez, the post office is more ambitious than that.

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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #163 on: April 28, 2011, 07:32:31 PM »
And the misrepresentation holds no bounds.  Bravo, and wonderful example for others

Sad, otherwise
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Re: The myth of the "pro-life" Democrat
« Reply #164 on: April 28, 2011, 07:35:00 PM »
And the misrepresentation holds no bounds.  Bravo, and wonderful example for others

Sad, otherwise

Nice rebuttal.

Like calling republicans racist. Meaningless without the backup data.