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Dumping the corpse in the sea
« on: May 02, 2011, 04:38:41 PM »
Dumping the corpse in the sea

My imagination is at work here: Did they dump the body at sea (in Leon Klinghoffer fashion), as I would have done, or did they give the bastard a proper and respectful burial?

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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2011, 05:14:16 PM »
Buried at sea eh.

Doesn't that raise all kinds of red flags?

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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2011, 05:20:19 PM »
Buried at sea eh. Doesn't that raise all kinds of red flags?

like what?
if you mean religious custom...probably...somebody always gonna bitch
if you mean some will deny the operation took place
i am sure they took video of the operation, his death, his dead body, and his burial.
in today's world...of wiki-leaks ect.....I am sure it will get out
but the JFK Jr. videos have not leaked as far as I know
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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2011, 05:21:00 PM »
Buried at sea eh.

Doesn't that raise all kinds of red flags?

It did for me from the get-go. Didn't Obama learn anything from the Birth Cert fiasco? Something this important you would think they would have really thought it through!!

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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 05:26:22 PM »
why give the whackjobs the chance to have some huge
arm waving - crying - angry - idolatry - funeral for this butcher bin laden?
then build a huge shrine at his grave?

sure it'd be nice to have the body to parade as proof
but there is a huge downside to that too

i think Obama probably did the right thing by
feeding bin laden to the sharks as soon as possible
was probably the best of bad choices....
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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 05:28:34 PM »
Buried at sea eh.

Doesn't that raise all kinds of red flags?

It did for me from the get-go. Didn't Obama learn anything from the Birth Cert fiasco? Something this important you would think they would have really thought it through!!


I agree.

When the news first broke my initial thought was it isn't October and its the wrong year.


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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 05:32:13 PM »
It makes perfect sense to give Bin Laden a proper Muslim burial at sea. The goal is to get rid of him without causing riots, chaos and disturbances, and in such a way as there is no shrine, no place to give any movement a place to focus on. A burial at sea accomplishes all of this. There are no relics, nothing to build a shrine to. It is the quickest and best way to have Bin Laden forgotten.

Muslims die all the time going and coming from the hajj, and are buried at sea. To defile the corpse could incite riots and disturbances in places like Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. It costs lives and money to put down riots and such. This was well thought out by people, probably in the Defense Dept. who understand how Muslims think and act.

I realize that it would make guys like Kramer feel really macho to kick the corpse, pee on his face, maybe take a dump on it, but suppose that it this were done it would cause a riot and thousands would die, and US-Pakistani relations were ruined for decades? Would it be worth it then?

I think not.
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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 05:34:55 PM »
Buried at sea eh.

Doesn't that raise all kinds of red flags?

It did for me from the get-go. Didn't Obama learn anything from the Birth Cert fiasco? Something this important you would think they would have really thought it through!!


I agree.

When the news first broke my initial thought was it isn't October and its the wrong year.

True, timing is everything! Whilst the main stream press is orgasmic over this my feeling is it won't make much difference in the 2012 election. And let's face it there is plenty of opportunity left for Obama to mess up more stuff by election time! I feel a little bad for Bush But know down inside that it's the extension of the Bush Policies that allowed this to happen.

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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 05:43:16 PM »
I am pretty sure that offering the body to the Saudis and having them reject it  was all planned in advance as well, since the Saudis do not want hajj pilgrims popping over to pay respects to Bin Laden's memory.

Burial at sea was clearly the way to go.

As for Iran, there are about two dozen things that I can think of more important than deposing the mullahs. The US cannot afford to change for government of a nation of 77 million people. While I agree the mullahs and Ahmedinejad are all first class assholes, getting rid of them is a job for the Iranians to do. The rulers of Zimbabwe and Myanmar/Burma are a lot more ghastly to their citizens than the mullahs, anyway,and constant war in places like Congo-Kinshasa are even more oppressive.
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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 05:45:18 PM »
It makes perfect sense to give Bin Laden a proper Muslim burial at sea. The goal is to get rid of him without causing riots, chaos and disturbances, and in such a way as there is no shrine, no place to give any movement a place to focus on. A burial at sea accomplishes all of this. There are no relics, nothing to build a shrine to. It is the quickest and best way to have Bin Laden forgotten.

Muslims die all the time going and coming from the hajj, and are buried at sea. To defile the corpse could incite riots and disturbances in places like Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. It costs lives and money to put down riots and such. This was well thought out by people, probably in the Defense Dept. who understand how Muslims think and act.

I realize that it would make guys like Kramer feel really macho to kick the corpse, pee on his face, maybe take a dump on it, but suppose that it this were done it would cause a riot and thousands would die, and US-Pakistani relations were ruined for decades? Would it be worth it then?

I think not.

It makes perfect sense to give Bin Laden a proper Muslim burial at sea.

In your mind has Obama ever not done something that doesn't make perfect sense?

So anyway, now Obama owns this, and if regular guys like BT & me (side bar: two good looking nice guys I might add) are thinking the burial at sea was dumb then you can bet your sweet bippie that 87% of America is thinking it too!! ROYAL SCREW-UP!!

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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2011, 05:51:22 PM »
You are not a "regular guy".

This was an excellent idea. There is no funeral, there is no burial, there is no shrine, there are no relics. They did not cremate him, which would be offensive to Muslim sensibilities.

Note that the Tunisian who set himself on fire became a major martyr, and the entire regime falls.

 Hamas provokes the Israelis, the Israelis kill some Hamas guy and they have a funeral, which turns into a riot, ending in more deaths and more funerals and more riots.

 That is clearly not a solution. Burial at Guantanamo would be weird. Even if no American likes Bin Laden, he is a hero to some, and the less he becomes a martyr (they are apesh!t for martyrs) the better.
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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2011, 05:53:05 PM »
You are not a "regular guy".
I beg your pardon, how would you know? I happen to be very regular...

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Re: Dumping the corpse in the sea
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2011, 05:54:26 PM »
Hopefully they kept forensic evidence to verify independently that they got the right guy.