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sirs

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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #450 on: June 11, 2011, 06:46:27 PM »
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Friday he would not recognize Israel as a Jewish state, adding that he was also opposed to population exchanges as part of any permanent peace agreement.
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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #451 on: June 11, 2011, 06:52:49 PM »
Quote from: sirs on June 11, 2011, 06:46:27 PM
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Friday he would not recognize Israel as a Jewish state, adding that he was also opposed to population exchanges as part of any permanent peace agreement.

Yes and how does that rescind the PA's longstanding recognition of Israeli Statehood?
There are reasons not to recognize the religious component of the state, but that does not mean that the political entity of Israel ceases to exist, it has as far as the Palestinians are concerned since 1993. 

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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #452 on: June 11, 2011, 06:56:47 PM »
That fact that the President of the Palestinians won't recognize Israeli's statehood, kinda says it all.  What the Israeli's do with their religious component is inmaterial.  You either recognize Israel, as it is, and where it is, or you don't

CURRENTLY, the Palestinians do not. 

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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #453 on: June 11, 2011, 07:04:24 PM »
Quote from: sirs on June 11, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
That fact that the President of the Palestinians won't recognize Israeli's statehood, kinda says it all.  What the Israeli's do with their religious component is inmaterial.  You either recognize Israel, as it is, and where it is, or you don't

CURRENTLY, the Palestinians do not. 

right back atcha

That is a completely untrue statement.

And you still have not shown where they rescinded the agreements made by Arafat on their behalf.



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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #454 on: June 12, 2011, 01:40:11 AM »
Quote from: BT on June 11, 2011, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: sirs on June 11, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
That fact that the President of the Palestinians won't recognize Israeli's statehood, kinda says it all.  What the Israeli's do with their religious component is inmaterial.  You either recognize Israel, as it is, and where it is, or you don't

CURRENTLY, the Palestinians do not. 

right back atcha

That is a completely untrue statement.

It ABSOLUTELY is.  Your own link even reinforced that point



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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #455 on: June 12, 2011, 08:24:19 AM »
The truth is an airy, wistful thing, floating above the treetops in the wondrous Land of sirs.
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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #456 on: June 12, 2011, 10:26:04 AM »
PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas:
"We Refuse to Recognize a Jewish State"
Palestinian Authority TV - June 2, 2011 - 01:25

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2959.htm
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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #457 on: June 12, 2011, 01:37:46 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on June 12, 2011, 08:24:19 AM
The truth is an airy, wistful thing, floating above the treetops in the wondrous Land of sirs.

Sorry if the truth is just a fantasy to some.  As I said, best stick with teaching spanish
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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #458 on: June 12, 2011, 01:46:13 PM »
Abbas does not recognize a JEWISH state, but he does recognize the State of Israel.

Israel recognizes the Palestinian State, they have never recognized Palestine as an Islamic State.

Sirs claim was that the Palestinians never reciprocated with the Israeli's concerning statehood.

Sirs is wrong.

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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #459 on: June 12, 2011, 02:19:16 PM »
ISRAEL IS A JEWISH STATE...ergo, no recognition....in this lifetime, or any other apparently, by the Palestinians

Bt is wrong
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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #460 on: June 12, 2011, 02:27:31 PM »
Quote from: sirs on June 12, 2011, 02:19:16 PM
ISRAEL IS A JEWISH STATE...ergo, no recognition....in this lifetime, or any other apparently, by the Palestinians

Bt is wrong

Perhaps you can explain how Palestinian Authorities recognizing the State of Israel is not recognizing the State of Israel. Because they did recognize the State of Israel in 1993 and as far as i know they never rescinded that recognition. Not only that but they recognized the authority of the UN to create that state.

Sirs is scrambling.

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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #461 on: June 12, 2011, 03:12:20 PM »
why would anybody with an ounce of brain-matter negotiate with these people?

give them land you control?

are you freakin crazy?

Former Hamas Minister of Culture
"Atallah Abu Al-Subh":
"The Jews Are the Most Despicable and Contemptible Nation to Crawl upon the Face of the Earth"

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2897.htm

Palestinian Woman in a Right-of-Return Demonstration:
Palestinians Should Massacre the Jews Like We Massacred Them in Hebron

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2929.htm

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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #462 on: June 12, 2011, 03:22:48 PM »
Quote from: Christians4LessGvt on June 12, 2011, 03:12:20 PM
why would anybody with an ounce of brain-matter negotiate with these people?

give them land you control?

are you freakin crazy?

Former Hamas Minister of Culture
"Atallah Abu Al-Subh":
"The Jews Are the Most Despicable and Contemptible Nation to Crawl upon the Face of the Earth"

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2897.htm

Palestinian Woman in a Right-of-Return Demonstration:
Palestinians Should Massacre the Jews Like We Massacred Them in Hebron

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2929.htm

Reagan negotiated with the Evil Empire.
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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #463 on: June 12, 2011, 03:28:39 PM »
Quote from: BT on June 12, 2011, 03:22:48 PM
Reagan negotiated with the Evil Empire.

lemme know when you find where Reagan ever
negotiated land to the Russians right on the American border.
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Re: Obama throws Israel under the Bus
« Reply #464 on: June 12, 2011, 03:35:43 PM »
Quote from: Christians4LessGvt on June 12, 2011, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: BT on June 12, 2011, 03:22:48 PM
Reagan negotiated with the Evil Empire.

lemme know when you find where Reagan ever
negotiated land to the Russians right on the American border.

Was land an issue with the Soviets?
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