Here's a bad omen for Obama & Company

[sirs]

Gallup: Obama's Eleventh Quarter Approval Average Lowest Since...



As Katie notes below, President Obama's average approval has reached a new low.  has But wait, liberals will inevitably counter, Obama's average approval rating is in the same ballpark as Ronald Reagan's at this juncture of his presidency.  Let's take a look at Gallup's numbers (since Eisenhower):
 


Reagan's recession-battered numbers were limping along in 1983, but the seeds for a massive economic recovery -- both in terms of GDP and employment -- were about to sprout and florish.  He coasted to re-election, winning 49 states.  What policies did Reagan implement?  Among other things, he
- cut marginal income tax rates and
- famously stood up to an agressive government sector union. 

Based on Obama's proposed and enacted policies, is anyone holding their breath for a dramatic turnaround in the next 13 months?  The White House certainly isn't.  Take a look at this graph from Heritage, which illustrates Obama's employment "recovery," compared to Reagan's:
 


Sixteen months after the Carter recession ended, the US employment rate had shed three full points.  The Obama White House's own estimates project that the current unemployment will more-or-less flatline through all of next year.  One other interesting note:  George H. W. Bush's approval rating was sky high in 1991 because of the first Gulf War, yet he failed to secure re-election.  Why? 

"It's the economy, stupid."  Ahem.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The important issue is who has the best plan for recovery.

The Republican'ts have no plan at all. Just more about the magical effects of cutting taxes for the rich.

[Kramer]

The important issue is who has the best plan for recovery.

The Republican'ts have no plan at all. Just more about the magical effects of cutting taxes for the rich.

I like the simple plan -- replace Obama and the economy will get better.

[sirs]

The important issue is who has the best plan for recovery.

Well, considering Obama and the Demasames want to simply push the same garbage that exacerbated the current mess, while the Republiwills want to enact policies similar to what Reagan did, that pulled us out of Carter's recession........pretty much a no-brainer there

Except for those with no brain, and can't look past their next republirant

[Michael Tee]

Fuck Ronald Reagan but even he had the brains to pull out of Lebanon once the Marine barracks there was blown to bits.  In the golden time of blessed Saint Ronny, the American Treasury hadn't been looted and the American working class still had jobs that paid the rent or the mortgage.  This is a different time, and tax breaks for the rich and continued militarism and empire building are no longer affordable.

Personally I would love nothing better than to see Cain whipping Obama's and Hillary's sorry asses in the next election.  First because I have come to totally loathe both Obama and Hillary, not only because they are sanctimonious hypocrites, but because of their blatant murders, continuing support of their murderous client state, Israel, and their non-stop caving to the Republican right and every imaginable special interest on domestic issues such as the abolition of even the public option from health-care "reform" and the continuation of tax breaks for the rich, two examples out of many.  But mainly because the U.S. is not yet in a pre-Revolutionary situation, and I can think of no one better able than Mr. Cain to bring on true pre-Revolutionary conditions in the shortest possible time.  I would love to see that fucking idiot put in charge of The World's Only Terrorist Superpower.  Not even George W. Bush could drive the car over the cliff any faster.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Reagan cut taxes in his first term. There was a massive recession. In his second term, he raised taxes, because there was insufficient revenue. What Reagan did at first threw many out of work and many more out of their homes and onto the street.

Times are vastly different now,and nothing anyone did in the 1980's could be repeated.

No Republican't has a plan for ending the current recession. Obama's plan is the best one anyone has proposed. It is unlikely that Cain or Romney would be better at pulling the country out of the recession than Obama.

[sirs]

You'll now demonstrate where he raised taxes, to support a portion of your opinion.  The latter part is moot, since his policies helped return many of those back to their home and back to work

And its asanine to claim "nothing" done 30years ago could help now

No Demasame plan that perptuates the same horroble repercussions is going to end this recession.  Obama's plan is the worst possible this nation could be subjected to, end of story

[Kramer]

Reagan cut taxes in his first term. There was a massive recession. In his second term, he raised taxes, because there was insufficient revenue. What Reagan did at first threw many out of work and many more out of their homes and onto the street.

Times are vastly different now,and nothing anyone did in the 1980's could be repeated.

No Republican't has a plan for ending the current recession. Obama's plan is the best one anyone has proposed. It is unlikely that Cain or Romney would be better at pulling the country out of the recession than Obama.

Good, I'm hoping under the 9-9-9 plan taxes go up for people not paying them and down for people paying too much.

Cain is looker more and more viable these days. You will soon be eating all your dumb words.

[R.R.]

Good, I'm hoping under the 9-9-9 plan taxes go up for people not paying them and down for people paying too much.

Me too. The bottom 50% who don't pay any taxes should have some skin in the game so that they would care more about the increasing size of government.

[Kramer]

Good, I'm hoping under the 9-9-9 plan taxes go up for people not paying them and down for people paying too much.

Me too. The bottom 50% who don't pay any taxes should have some skin in the game so that they would care more about the increasing size of government.

Speaking of the 9-9-9 plan will all the other taxes go away, like the tax on cell phone use, cable TV, home phone, etc?

[R.R.]

Yeah, I think so. Cain talked about getting rid of the hidden taxes on items. He says there are 4 hidden taxes in a loaf of bread, for example. He would do away with them. This will all be very exciting if he gets elected and starts proposing his different tax reforms. Wouldn't it be better though if it were just a 9-9 plan, with no national sales tax?

[Kramer]

Yeah, I think so. Cain talked about getting rid of the hidden taxes on items. He says there are 4 hidden taxes in a loaf of bread, for example. He would do away with them. This will all be very exciting if he gets elected and starts proposing his different tax reforms. Wouldn't it be better though if it were just a 9-9 plan, with no national sales tax?

The sales tax has been met with a lot of skepticism. If as Cain says prices go down on products then the tax shouldn't be a problem as long as they (Congress) can never ever be raise it. Cain said that prices will go down because companies will save a lot of money that currently is being passed on to consumers. The upside on the tax is a little of the underground economy will be taxed. I'm also concerned about state sales tax because when they are combined, as in say CA, I am looking at about 17%.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The 9-9-9 plan has far teensier chance of passing than Cain has of being nominated.

It is just a gimmick proposed by a crackpot in a great whacking rant

[sirs]

So...no link to where Regan raised taxes, in an effort to increase revenues yet??  No surprise there. 

[BT]

Wouldn't it be better though if it were just a 9-9 plan, with no national sales tax?

The sales tax captures those who shelter funds through the underground economy. Plus it reminds voters every time they make a purchase how expensive the federal government is, and possibly make them question the benefit of a lot of the programs those taxes go to.