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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #75 on: November 13, 2012, 11:35:14 AM »
I guess I should do some Clinton bashing then    8)


I believe she and other women were simply after money.

Clinton was a great president, far better than any Bush or Reagan
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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #76 on: November 13, 2012, 02:09:07 PM »
I know I said it would be interesting to see how this plays out, but this just keeps getting more and more strange...

New twists in Petraeus case: Another general accused of ‘inappropriate’ emails, ‘shirtless’ FBI agent taken off probe
By Liz Goodwin, Yahoo! News | The Lookout


It seemed the story behind Gen. David Petraeus' resignation as director of the CIA couldn't get stranger. New reports, however, now indicate that Marine Gen. John Allen, another well-respected, high-ranking general, might be involved in the growing scandal.
 
On the surface, the case so far involves the FBI; a slew of allegedly inappropriate emails (between Petraeus and his biographer, Paula Broadwell; Allen and socialite Jill Kelley; and allegedly threatening ones Broadwell sent to Kelley); the FBI agent who started the probe, who's now being investigated for sending "shirtless" photos to Kelley; and, as reported by the New York Post on Tuesday morning, a child custody battle involving Kelley's twin sister that allegedly concerns both Petraeus and Allen.
 
To help sort things out, here's a rundown of events, and where things currently stand.
 
Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old from Tampa, Fla., who organized local social events for the military as a volunteer, became friends with Petraeus and his family when he was stationed in Florida. Last spring, she began receiving harassing emails from an anonymous account and alerted a friend who worked for the FBI.
 
The FBI began an investigation, which eventually uncovered an affair between Petraeus and Broadwell, both of whom are married. The FBI believes Broadwell sent the harassing emails to Kelley because she perceived her to be a rival for Petraeus' affections.
 
The FBI found something else during the inquiry: 20,000 to 30,000 pages of emails and other communications between Kelley and Allen, the top commander in Afghanistan and a nominee to become the new NATO supreme allied commander for Europe.
 
A senior defense official has told the Washington Post that the emails were "potentially inappropriate." Other sources strongly denied to the Post that anything inappropriate ever happened between Allen and Kelley, but said that Allen may have used terms of endearment such as "sweetheart" to refer to Kelley in his emails to her. The source said Allen, who is married, is "embarrassed" by this, but did not have an affair with her. Allen also received an email from the same account that was harassing Kelley, though it's unclear what the email said.
 
Both Petraeus and Allen also wrote letters submitted to a court on behalf of Kelley's twin sister, who was locked in a nasty custody fight with the father of her 4-year-old child. The generals vouched for the sister's abilities as a mother, the Post reported.
 
The Tampa party planner, who is married and has three children, is also at the center of another bizarre twist in the case. The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday night that Kelley's FBI agent friend was taken off the Petraeus case and is currently being investigated because his superiors discovered that he sent "shirtless" photos to Kelley before the probe started. After the agent was removed from the case, the agent contacted Washington Rep. David Reichert to warn him that he thought FBI leaders would sweep the investigation under the rug.
 
Meanwhile, the Daily Beast, citing an anonymous source, reports that the harassing emails allegedly sent from Broadwell to Kelley did not say "stay away from my guy" as previously reported, and did not even directly reference Petraeus. The source described the tone of the emails as "more like, 'Who do you think you are? You parade around the base. You need to take it down a notch.'" The Wall Street Journal reported that one email, without elaborating, asked Kelley if her husband knew what she was doing. Another said the sender knew Kelley had touched "him," without specifying who the "him" was.
 
And, the Associated Press has uncovered the trick Broadwell and Petraeus used to email each other without creating an online trail. The pair set up anonymous email accounts and drafted emails to each other without ever pushing "send." Each one could log on to the other account and click the "drafts" folder to see if a message had been left for them. This avoids creating an easily traceable email trail, the AP reported.
 
One question the Daily Beast raised is why the FBI investigated the harassing emails sent to Kelley in the first place. There were no overt threats, such as "I'll kill you," in the emails, and some wonder if Kelley's friendship with the FBI agent may be why the agency investigated what seemed like a humdrum case better suited to local authorities.
 
Broadwell's father, for one, told the New York Daily News that he thinks the scandal is a smoke screen for a bigger story. "This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out," Broadwell's father, Paul Krantz, told the Daily News. "There is a lot more that is going to come out."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/twists-petraeus-case-another-general-accused-inappropriate-emails-162656131.html
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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #77 on: November 13, 2012, 02:57:57 PM »
"The pair set up anonymous email accounts and drafted emails to each other without ever pushing "send." Each one could log on to the other account and click the "drafts" folder to see if a message had been left for them. This avoids creating an easily traceable email trail, ......"

I like it.


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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #78 on: November 13, 2012, 02:59:03 PM »
I know I said it would be interesting to see how this plays out,
but this just keeps getting more and more strange...

It does indeed.
and you would think they would have let it simmer just a few more days
but this huge story comes out just a few days after the election....total coincidence!
but who knows it could be they had no choice but to spill the beans
because Petraeus was about to go before the committee
and Hillary is too busy travelling to testify?.....LOL
something is up.....and it smells
there are headlines that claim there is an even bigger story behind this
my gut is starting to tell me...
as more women get involved is that this is espionage against us
never underestimate the power of sex.....to get things people want
this is a damn shame for our country


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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2012, 03:59:24 PM »
Because this is so much more important to talk about than a Dead Ambassador and the denial for requested added security, or help during the slaughter.  President Obama thanks you for your service & sacrifice


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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2012, 04:29:15 PM »
How could this be a "bigger story"?

Petraeus was indiscreet, the CIA was unprepared to predict an attack in Libya several people got killed.

There were rumors that the consulate was holding some suspected terrorists in or near the consulate.

It is not a big story, and the President is clearly not to blame.

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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #81 on: November 13, 2012, 04:51:08 PM »
How could this be a "bigger story"?

There could be a bigger story in about a million ways.
We'll see if the truth gets out about this tragedy.



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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #82 on: November 13, 2012, 07:17:55 PM »
As a possibility , this could be a distraction , dust in our eyes and a flourish made with the free hand.

While something worse is getting pushed out of sight.

Or as another possibility , stupid happens to smart people sometimes, even in groups of well educated and responsible sorts.

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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #83 on: November 13, 2012, 07:38:19 PM »
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There were rumors that the consulate was holding some suspected terrorists in or near the consulate.

Perhaps that is the bigger story after all. The use of secret prisons in the Obama Administration.

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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #84 on: November 13, 2012, 08:07:43 PM »
As I understand it so far, the only one who has said the CIA was holding prisoners was Broadwell, and that in a speech or something somewhere. The CIA denies it, there has been no other mention of them, and the CIA has long been banned from keeping prisoners, due to the past allegations of them shuffling prisoners all over to secret detention facilities, turning them over to foreign intelligence services for interrogation, etc.
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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #85 on: November 13, 2012, 08:14:38 PM »
It wouldn't surprise me if they were holding prisoners. It's not like the CIA is known for explicitly following the laws of the US or their host countries.

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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #86 on: November 13, 2012, 08:18:17 PM »
I woulden't be surprised either, but so far Broadwell is the only one making the claim.
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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #87 on: November 13, 2012, 08:24:26 PM »
I would be surprised.

That would have been a woefully undermanned Prison.

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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #88 on: November 13, 2012, 08:30:01 PM »
I would be surprised.

That would have been a woefully undermanned Prison.

I dunno . What is the usual ratio of staff to inmates?


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Re: CIA chief Petraeus resigns, reportedly over affair
« Reply #89 on: November 13, 2012, 09:52:15 PM »
Hmmmm

Says here both Broadwell and Reile Hunter (of John Edwards fame) lived in the same neighborhood.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/11/13/for-charlotte-neighbors-paula-broadwell-and-rielle-hunter-the-spotlights-intense/