From URL in opening post in XOs thread: "One of them got the gun out of the holster but then it got stuck in his shirt."
I posted a particular .45, on more than one occasion, that I recommend for personal defense. It's the best out there, period. It is completely dehorned, rounded at all the edges, so that it won't get caught on your holster or shirt or jacket. Plus, it will not fail you, ever, if you take care of it. If you're going to carry, nothing less will do. I suspect none of the gun-nuts in here bought that weapon.
Returning timely, deadly, fire, while under attack, requires 1000s of hours of practice in as real to life a situation as you can simulate. A firing range doesn't get it. You need, at minimum, a shooting house. You NEED to be surprised. When you tell people about how the SEALS, or Special Forces, train, they always say we're not SF, or SEALS. Irrelevant. You have to train as they do, nothing short of that will do. This is why most dickheads shouldn't be carrying a firearm around. They have no idea what they're doing. This is why you shouldn't have grandpa working as an armed security guard in an elementary school. That idea is a dumb as you can get.
Having a gun in your house for self defense is one thing, carrying one around on the street is another thing altogether. The people who carry when they don't really need to are gun-nuts, fruit-loops, like Sirs. They are the last people you want carrying a firearm around.
We need to make concealed carry licenses almost impossible to get. We need to ban all AR15 platforms on civilian firearms. Those two things are a good place to start.
BSB