Eric Gerner's Estate gets $5.9 million from NYC

[Xavier_Onassis]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/13/us/garner-nyc-settlement/index.html

This was the guy subdued and strangled for selling single cigarettes.

I am sure you righties will be thrilled to hear this, since I think you would prefer that he get nothing, because he was disobedient.

[Plane]

  It is close to a year since this incident.

  I feel a lot of sympathy for Eric Gardener , he was killed in an enforcement of an unfair tax.

   If I were him , I might also refuse to pay, but the place to exchange arguments isn't the sidewalk where the police are empowered to grapple you and are expected to enforce the will of the people as enacted by the legislature.

    It is kinda hard to believe sometimes that the law is an accurate reflection of the peoples will, especially when something like this happens.

     But here we are, taxing Eric Gardener to death, literally.

[Xavier_Onassis]

All the cop had to do was stop choking him when he heard Garner say "I can't breathe".
No one should be killed for selling single cigarettes or for refusing to be cuffed.

[sirs]

And one more time....he wasn't killed for selling illegal cigarettes or for resisting arrest.  It was a tragic accident brought about by his not complying with officer's instructions     

[Xavier_Onassis]

A Jury award of $5.9 million says that  the American system of Justice says you are full of shit, sirs.

[Plane]

All the cop had to do was stop choking him when he heard Garner say "I can't breathe".
No one should be killed for selling single cigarettes or for refusing to be cuffed.

STOP!

Have you thought about this?

I have been choked , I was not speaking at the time , but I really wanted to.

That Policeman has proof on tape that he did not choke Eric Gardener even a little bit.

   Now this is not to say that the roughness of the arrest did not contribute to the shortness of breath and other symptoms that lead soon to Mr Gardeners death. It probably did, but the police worked as they are trained and ordered to work.

    How does the legislature get out from under responsibility for setting Mr Gardener up for this , and the policemen too?  Did they think that no one would ever die from rough handling  as they made it unavoidable that a lot of people would be arrested for the sake of a tax?

   WE have a lot of laws and a lot of regulations , and these are not all harmless.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Again, the cop was clearly responsible for this guy's death, and the jury agrees.

[Christians4LessGvt]

A Jury award of $5.9 million says that  the American system of Justice says you are full of shit, sirs.

Did you not read the very article you posted?

There was no jury involved in this settlement.

In fact no officer was even indicted.

This was a pre-trial agreement.

I guess NY decided the trial could cost more than the settlement offered to the half-wit's family.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Whatever the case, the cop was wrong and the city had to pay for his incompetence.

[Plane]

Again, the cop was clearly responsible for this guy's death, and the jury agrees.

No.

The Jury has made the State and City responsible , and I concur with them.

Do you think that this policeman is going to pony up almost six million?

The legislature really ought to make this payment out of their pay.

[sirs]

A Jury award of $5.9 million says that  the American system of Justice says you are full of shit, sirs.

Speaking of full of crap, this was not jury, the estate was not awarded anything for anything.  Do you not even read what you post?  This was an OUT OF COURT SETTLEMENT, decided by a few city officials.   oy vey.     

[Plane]

Hmmm...

I missed that.

Do you suppose that a jury would have been any less generous?

[sirs]

We'll never know.  But the erroneous implication that a supposed jury awarded the estate with a declaration that he was killed for selling illegal cigarettes and resisting arrest is what's so full of AMBE.  This was the city's decision to put this to rest without acknowledging any criminal wrong doing by anyone

[Xavier_Onassis]

Would you prefer that they arrest the cop for malfeasance, or send Garner's corpse to prison, sirs?

[sirs]

Stop being an idiot.