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sirs

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ISIS apparent goal is to get everyone mad at them
« on: November 13, 2015, 08:03:39 PM »
Not just America or England, now we have them blowing up a Russian plane, and cooridnating terrorist attacks in France, outside a soccer match between France and Germany.

So....what was that about Obama's reference to a "JV team" again?
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Re: ISIS apparent goal is to get everyone mad at them
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2015, 10:08:42 PM »
They were a JV tam when he said it.

He is no longer saying it, because it is no longer true.

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Re: ISIS apparent goal is to get everyone mad at them
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2015, 10:10:15 PM »
  I know someone with a home in Paris.

Yes I am mad at Isis.

I would not be much madder if I were a Parisian myself,

Hey XO ...  I do not know much French, can you help me with this?


Is "je suis parisien" proper and appropriate?

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Re: ISIS apparent goal is to get everyone mad at them
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2015, 03:04:36 PM »
They were a JV tam when he said it.

He is no longer saying it, because it is no longer true.


They were never a "JV tam".  He tried to push it to imply that AlQeada had been largely disassembled, and ISIS was a nothing-much movement
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Re: ISIS apparent goal is to get everyone mad at them
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2015, 04:46:18 PM »
Obama should resign over this....
hell the same day as the Paris attack the idiot claims ISIS is "contained"!
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2015, 05:24:08 PM »
The left and Obama sychophants literally decry every time Benghazi comes up, since what it highlights, is like a festering wound.  As you look deeper, you see just how bad the situation is.  Benghazi was a micro-window of just how disastrous his foreign policy has been

In a nut shell, he campaigns on being this "uniter", who will bring all these factions, both domestic & foreign together.  Our allies will come to embrace our "non-cowboy posture, and our enemies will grasp how we are trying to .... "understand" their plight & grievences

Then reality sets in, where with our acute lack of leadership, we alienate our allies, embolden our enemies, and allow terrorists to flourish.  Benghazi demonstrates that despite repeated efforts by those closest to the areas of danger, in requesting help, Our executive branch, led by the State Dept, IGNORED THE INCREASING WARNING SIGNS.  (just as they ignored that JV team, ISIS).  Benghazi demonstrated that we had no response to an attack, as the Executuve branch tried to lay blame on some obscure video, creating this completely "spontaneous protest".  Benghazi demonstrates not just an acute lack of leadership & incompotence, but an ever growing requirement to play the CYA game, even going so far as blaming Ambassador Stevens for accepting such a dangerous assignment.  AND THEY KNEW, from the outset, that this was a terrorist attack, and not some video....but lied to the American people, and those families who lost loved ones, since the truth would have been far too politically damaging to those in power

What's happening in Paris, may have not been preventable, but it could clearly be seen thru the eyes of what happened in Benghazi, as we watched a growing terrorist threat, go largely unchecked, outside of a few pin-prick drone strikes.  And despite pleas for help and additional military force, we sat there, complacent to think by "being nice", that the terrorists would be nice in return

Incompotence in leadership, at an exponential level
« Last Edit: November 15, 2015, 01:40:52 PM by sirs »
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Re: ISIS apparent goal is to get everyone mad at them
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2015, 09:20:15 PM »
Obama should resign because some Muslims planned an attack on Paris?

France is filled with a generation of young, Muslim Maghrebbis  (Algerians, Moroccans, Tunisians)  who are neither French nor real Arabs. The idea of these attacks it to provoke hostility among the French against Muslims, who will in turn, join the terrorists, perhaps in France, perhaps in the Middle East. Up to now, they have not dared to rebel, but the goal here is to send them over the edge.

It is a barbaric, but clever strategy, from a tactical point of view.
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Re: ISIS apparent goal is to get everyone mad at them
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2015, 10:59:42 AM »
Obama should resign because some Muslims planned an attack on Paris?

France is filled with a generation of young, Muslim Maghrebbis  (Algerians, Moroccans, Tunisians)  who are neither French nor real Arabs. The idea of these attacks it to provoke hostility among the French against Muslims, who will in turn, join the terrorists, perhaps in France, perhaps in the Middle East. Up to now, they have not dared to rebel, but the goal here is to send them over the edge.

It is a barbaric, but clever strategy, from a tactical point of view.

That seems like a reasonable plot to suspect.

Do you think this is that thought out and purposeful?

If it is that implies a leadership that could be persuaded of the uselessness of such a strategy, only of course, if it is not working.

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Re: ISIS apparent goal is to get everyone mad at them
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2015, 11:54:10 AM »
Obama should resign because some Muslims planned an attack on Paris?



It's time for Obama to make a choice: Lead us or resign

By Michael Goodwin

November 14, 2015

http://nypost.com/2015/11/14/its-time-for-obama-to-make-a-choice-lead-us-or-resign/
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2015, 05:54:43 PM »
President Obama is leading, and no, he will not resign. It is idiotic to suggest that he should consider it.


Isis wants recruits, especially those who speak a European language and have an EU passport. The various attacks were mostly suicide attacks, so they were planned by someone higher up the chain of command from the cannon fodder status.

The plan is to disrupt  Western civilization. to show their fellow Muslims that they can get away with damaging Western civilization in the same way Western culture has disrupted the Muslim status quo  with women's rights, consumer capitalism and mass participation in how society is run, They want it to be run as Mohammad prescribed: a clerical ruling presence guiding a small wealthy feudal elite.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2015, 07:23:23 PM »
Of course he won't resign.  No President is going to resign, unless they're about to be impeached.  But no, he's not leading either.  Far from it.  And that severe lack of leadership has been instrumental in the growth & expansion of that JV team, ISIS
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Re: ISIS apparent goal is to get everyone mad at them
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2015, 02:15:55 PM »
Yeah, like you are the expert.

Get a life, sirs.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2015, 05:01:12 PM »
Another priceless & epic rebuttal from the left.  Your contributions are indeed appreciated    8)
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2015, 01:43:14 PM »
As a rule, military strategies are rarely announced publicly. So saying that Obama has no strategy because he has not described one in great detail is bogus.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2015, 06:25:46 PM »
As a rule, military strategies are rarely announced publicly. So saying that Obama has no strategy because he has not described one in great detail is bogus.

   Is there any reason to suspect that an effective strategy is being employed?

   Is there any reason to suspect that a strategy is being employed?