Gun laws are easyer to pass than enforce

[Plane]

   I agree with the second part of that. The second amendment right does not depend on the membership in Milita.

   But I do not agree that "the militia" must be a government entity, the Army and Navy have a different place in the constitution.

     I think that community Militias used to be a salutatory part of American community and could be again. Much depending on how "Well Regulated " is understood.

[sirs]

Didn't say it had to be, only that it could be....which it is (Military & National Guard)  We did not really have a designated "Navy" or "Army", When the Constitution was thought out & written.  As we expanded and improved our defensive capabilities, we merely started giving those organized militias (the ones referenced in the 2nd amendment as necessary to the security of a free state) names, like Navy & Army

[Plane]

  The federal Army , Navy and Marines are older than our Constitution.

   But for a long time we kept a tradition of having these minimal in size.

       I think that it would not take much change for us to return to that habit , but we would need more generalized military training for people not in the military so that it would not take too long to gather forces when needed.

      Unfortunately our Atlantic and Pacific Moats are not as much an impediment to trouble as they once were , it may not be possible to reduce our armed forces to the proportion of the population it was in 1939.

[sirs]

We didn't have a "navy" or "marines" when our country was founded.  The "regulated" militia has grown to include them, as our military might grew

The unregulated militia is the rest of us, who are not part of any regulated militia, be it private or Government

[Plane]

We didn't have a "navy" or "marines" when our country was founded.  The "regulated" militia has grown to include them, as our military might grew

The unregulated militia is the rest of us, who are not part of any regulated militia, be it private or Government

Our Constitution is also younger than our nation.

Check it out, The Army and Navy were needed before the Constitution was ready.

[sirs]

Point being we didn't have one.   We do now, and they fit nicely into the category of regulated mulitia

[Plane]

  Now I am just quibbling.

   The right to bear arms is more than just the right to have the things, there is a closely associated right to organize militia not answerable to the federal government.

    I don't think that the second amendment was written with having the armed forces be armed in mind.

    The people need and deserve a formidable military power organic to them , no matter how seldom it is called on.

[sirs]

Sure, there's private militias, and I'm sure they're quite regulated".  Point being, while both forms of regulated mulitias are necessary to a free state, the right of the rest of us, shall not be infinged.     

[Plane]

   The nearest existing thing to what I have in mind is the CMP.



      It is a fraction of what it could have been.

http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7

[sirs]

In any case, I think I made my point

[Plane]

  Yes.


I like you fine when we don't agree.

[sirs]

Hehe........ditto