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sirs

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1st deny, then minimize, then ridicule
« on: June 14, 2007, 01:10:49 AM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: 1st deny, then minimize, then ridicule
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2007, 01:29:12 AM »
The irony, of course, being that BushCo and his acolytes, like you, who constantly play up how it was "just some guys with boxcutters who carried out the attacks on 9.11" (a LIE) and now are wanting to get credit for pointing out anyone who might have a boxcutter or a pointed stick as a terrorist in hopes that it will bring back the "good old days" of everyone blindly and fearfully following Bush's every dimwitted whim.

The ego of your cult is completely under assault so you are now in the unenviable position of hoping for another 9.11 (or at the very least the perception that BushCo and the Cult somehow stopped one) in order to get everyone back in line, lockstep-style.


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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2007, 03:13:32 AM »
The irony, of course, being that BushCo and his acolytes, like you, who constantly play up how it was "just some guys with boxcutters who carried out the attacks on 9.11" (a LIE)

LOL.....um yea, 911 was all just a figment of our imagination, and the entire country is lying to itself.  Yea, that's it     ::)


and now are wanting to get credit for pointing out anyone who might have a boxcutter or a pointed stick as a terrorist

Sure like'd to see how you make that leap of illogic.  Please, do tell


The ego of your cult is completely under assault so you are now in the unenviable position of hoping for another 9.11 (or at the very least the perception that BushCo and the Cult somehow stopped one) in order to get everyone back in line, lockstep-style.

See, this is how twisted the left has become?  Actually believing for a nanosecond I, or anyone else trying to stop the killing of innocents by terrorists, advocate the mass killing of innocents by terrorists.  Of course, when you consider the source, its not surprising.  Hell, if they can believe the asanine notion that Bush knew and let 911 happen, it doesn't take to many other tweaked neurons firing to believe someone like myself would want another 911

But you know, it's interesting how Brass introduced this demented line of logic.  Apparently, in his mind, another 911 brings people to believe Bush would do better at dealing with it.  Apparently in his mind, another 911 is the worst thing that could happen to the left.  And ironically, it's the left making it harder and harder for BushCo to do just that.  Interesting dilemma

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2007, 01:34:21 PM »
Another Al Quieda success seems inevitable , bt there is alot of work going on to prevent it , to put it off as far as possible.

When it finally does happen , that some remaining chink in our armor is found and exploited , will it be possible for this party or that one to blame the other?

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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2007, 01:57:55 PM »
Another Al Quieda success seems inevitable , bt there is alot of work going on to prevent it , to put it off as far as possible.  When it finally does happen , that some remaining chink in our armor is found and exploited , will it be possible for this party or that one to blame the other?

Hasn't stopped the cycle yet.  Not long after 911, the right was blaming the left based on the walls built up between the various intel gathering departments facilitated by Democrat legislators, and that Clinton had numerous chances to get Usama, while the left was blaming the right since 911 "happened on Bush's watch".  I don't see anything changing
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2007, 03:49:05 PM »
<<while the left was blaming the right since 911 "happened on Bush's watch". >>

Well guess what?  It DID happen on Bush's watch.  Something that it was his duty (not Clinton's) to prevent, he didn't prevent.

Sorry, I'm not buying into "Blame Clinton for 911."  Clinton got through two terms without any shit like that happening, so he must have been doing a good enough job.  Bush knew everything that Clinton had done, the good and the bad, the successes and the failures - - he inherited the net outcome of the Clinton administration and from Inauguration Day on forward, it was his (Bush's) watch.  If Clinton had fucked up, he knew (or could have or should have known) about the fuck-up; now it was up to him to take extra-special precautions to compensate for the Clinton fuckups (if in fact there were any.)  But, Bush being Bush, he did jackshit - - and was caught with his pants down.

Sorry, sirs, if the ship hits an iceberg, blame the captain who hit it - - not the guy who used to be captain before. 

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2007, 04:03:41 PM »
    
1st deny, then minimize, then ridicule

As in, Abu Ghraib never happened!  Oh, it was only fraternity pranks.  Oh, it was only a few bad apples.  Whatssamatta, you can't do a little "stress positions" and "changes in temperature"  for the good of your COUNTRY? What are you,  a wuss? 

As in, No one ever outed Plame.  Oh, she was never undercover.  Oh...Her HUSBAND Outed her! That's the ticket!   Right.  She drove in and out of Langley every day, of course she wasn't undercover, how ridiculous.   She was just a low-level....

Yeah, I get it now.    I'll leave you all to it.   It's a very good example for my children not to emulate.
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sirs

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2007, 04:47:04 PM »
See what I mean, Plane?
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2007, 11:59:37 PM »
<<while the left was blaming the right since 911 "happened on Bush's watch". >>

  Clinton got through two terms without any shit like that happening, so he must have been doing a good enough job. ...................

Sorry, sirs, if the ship hits an iceberg, blame the captain who hit it - - not the guy who used to be captain before. 


A lot of these things happened during the Clintons' co -presidency , does blowing up Embassy's and ships not count?

In sheer number there were more such incidents during the Clinton watch , especially if you do not count incidents in which the Americans involved were armed and ready to shoot back.


.........and I don't , Americans ready to shoot back is an other category.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2007, 12:11:43 AM »
<<A lot of these things happened during the Clintons' co -presidency , does blowing up Embassys and ships not count?>>

Chickenshit compared to what happened on Bush's watch.

<<In sheer number there were more such incidents during the clinton watch , especially if you do not count incidents in which the Americans invoved were armed nd rady to shoot back.>>

In sheer numbers the people who slip and fall in building lobbies outnumber all the people who died in the WTC attacks.  Do you consider slippery floors as big a problem as "terrorism?"    Do you think the US government needs to undertake a War on Slippery Floors on at least the same scale as the War on Terrorism?


<<and I don't , Americans read to shot back is an other catagory.>>

This must be a typo of some kind.  I just don't get it.

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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2007, 12:28:05 AM »
<<A lot of these things happened during the Clintons' co -presidency , does blowing up Embassys and ships not count?>>

Chickenshit compared to what happened on Bush's watch.

<<In sheer number there were more such incidents during the clinton watch , especially if you do not count incidents in which the Americans invoved were armed nd rady to shoot back.>>

In sheer numbers the people who slip and fall in building lobbies outnumber all the people who died in the WTC attacks.  Do you consider slippery floors as big a problem as "terrorism?"    Do you think the US government needs to undertake a War on Slippery Floors on at least the same scale as the War on Terrorism?


<<and I don't , Americans read to shot back is an other catagory.>>

This must be a typo of some kind.  I just don't get it.


Sometimes I feel like the king of Typos.
There were a greater number of terror attacks on American soil during the Clinton Watch than the Bush watch, there were more attacks on Americans over seas during the Clinton watch than the Bush watch.

This is especially true if you count Americans who are prepared to fight as a seprate catagory , during the Clinton Presidency mor Americans who were minding their own business were targeted.

The 9-11 attack was a perfect storm for the terrorists , they would have hurt just as many earlyer if they had been just as lucky.
And they are likely to keep trying till they are so lucky again.

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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2007, 12:37:02 AM »
<<The 9-11 attack was a perfect storm for the terrorists , they would have hurt just as many earlyer if they had been just as lucky.
And they are likely to keep trying till they are so lucky again.>>

Luck had nothing to do with it.  The watchmen were asleep on their watch.  And the head watchman was George W. Bush.

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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2007, 12:40:53 AM »
<<The 9-11 attack was a perfect storm for the terrorists , they would have hurt just as many earlyer if they had been just as lucky.
And they are likely to keep trying till they are so lucky again.>>

Luck had nothing to do with it.  The watchmen were asleep on their watch.  And the head watchman was George W. Bush.

What were the watchmen doing when the Twin towers were bombed in 93?
We were lucky that time that the force required was underestimated.

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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2007, 12:47:25 AM »
<<What were the watchmen doing when the Twin towers were bombed in 93?
<<We were lucky that time that the force required was underestimated.>>

Coulda woiulda shoulda.  Fact is they DIDN'T.  Fact is that Clinton had some successes and some failures.  Maybe his successes were due to luck or maybe his failures were due to misfortune.  Regardless, he finished his watch, and whatever COULDA happened, didn't.

Fact also is, George Bush came on watch and the worst fucking disaster in modern US history took place on his watch.  And all he can say is, "Well, it COULDA happened to Clinton?"

Pathetic.

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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2007, 01:04:17 AM »
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As in, No one ever outed Plame.  Oh, she was never undercover.  Oh...Her HUSBAND Outed her! That's the ticket!   Right.  She drove in and out of Langley every day, of course she wasn't undercover, how ridiculous.   She was just a low-level....

Plame is a Democrat partisan, and her husband is a hack. If she didn't want her name mentioned in the media, she should not have recommended her husband on the mission to Niger. There was no underlying crime in the Libby case. Fitz would have indicted Armatage if "outing" Plame were a crime.