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Cynthia

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We are less respected by the world?
« on: September 26, 2008, 11:35:59 PM »
Ok, well, Obama spells that out as a strategic defensive strike.

But, I return to the one thing I know first hand==IRan.

Who really gives a ratzzz ass if we are regarded by the countries of the world with less respect. Of course, we are going to be hated. I have to admit, that is one thing I have held as reality for the duration. I can't stand it when people (and I have made such statements) of America resort to the bottom dwelling statement-

We are bad because others think we are bad..and yet, other countries would LOVE TO SEE US fall.

Damn that frog in the hot water. I am not going to allow the water boil my truth in the end.

We have to have a thick skin as a nation. We are a wonderful country. We are also hated. Fact.

I know that fact. I lived with an IRanian. I know that fact.

Be careful. We are going to be hated.

We can't let that be a point to win a war or debate. Obama isn't my man. That's a given, now.
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Re: We are less respected by the world?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 12:13:26 AM »
Iranians hate what the US did to Iran back in the 1950's. This is pretty well justified. Iranians by and large do not hate Americans, they just dislike our government. Amedinejahd is a prick, and Americans don't get it that he is talking to other Iranians and he likes to frighten the Israelis, because they are so damned easy to frighten and because they are so bloody fond of being martyrs. Iranians like being martyrs as well.

It used to be funny to watch Amedinejahd let lose with his totally idle threats and then watch the Israelis blow it totally out of proportion, but now it's just annoying and tedious.

Getting the troops out of Iraq will make US much more effective at using our power in the rest of the world. As it is now, everyone knows that we don't have the goods to back up our policies.


Iranians are not even close to being the people we need to be worried about not liking us. Those would be Western Europeans, Africans, Latin Americans and Asians, as well as many people in the Middle East.

McCain's stance on oil was weak, weak, weak. He's got nothing. If he's elected, nothing will be done. Gasoline could go to $10 a gallon and we'll still be hooked on it.



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Re: We are less respected by the world?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 12:19:14 AM »
>>McCain's stance on oil was weak, weak, weak. He's got nothing. If he's elected, nothing will be done. Gasoline could go to $10 a gallon and we'll still be hooked on it.<<

McCain's stance is the same as Barry's.

It's obvious we need to stop depending on foreign oil. Nuclear power is the single best option for America. The left, for whatever reason, is against everything that can realistically help Americans get affordable energy. No Nuclear, no coal, no drilling, no, no, no. It's a winning issue for McCain and for America.

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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 12:23:38 AM »
McCain's stance is the same as Barry's.

No it isn't. McCain wants to rely on Big Oil.

Obama wants to transition away from oil.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 12:27:21 AM »
Strange how this supposed less respected country of ours, has facilitated far more pro-american, pro-conservative, pro-antiterrorist election wins, in quite a few democratically run countries, during this administration, that had been running far more socialist, prior.

Strange indeed
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 12:30:13 AM »
McCain is all for Nuclear Energy.

Considering the transition to electric cars we are going to need it.


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Re: We are less respected by the world?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 12:31:09 AM »
Strange how this supposed less respected country of ours, has facilitated far more pro-american, pro-conservative, pro-antiterrorist election wins, in quite a few democratically run countries, during this administration, that had been running far more socialist, prior.

Strange indeed

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Strange that you have convinced yourself of this, because is just isn't true.

No elected governments are pro-terrorist, anywhere nor have they been in 60 years.
Pro-conservative"? Who would that be? Not Europe, Not Latin America, not by any definition of the word conservative in any significant place.

As usual, you do not know what the poo you are talking about.
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Re: We are less respected by the world?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 12:33:39 AM »
McCain is all for Nuclear Energy.

Considering the transition to electric cars we are going to need it.


How is that new plug in Chevy Volt working out for you?

Before they build more nuclear plants, they need to send someone over to France and learn how to do it.

We have too many Montgomery Burnses and Homer Simpsons here on this side of the ocean.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 12:38:25 AM »
France, with a more pro-american newly elected leader
Germany, with a more pro-american newly elected leader
Great Britain, remaining a staunch U.S. Allie, with its new Prime Minister

And what Xo is deliberately attempting to ignore is that in the reference to Anti-terrorist, is in the amount of Anti-terrorist legislative endeavors, such as wiretapping, that many democratically run countries have adopted, similar to that of the U.S. post 911,        All the while the left berrates them here.

Weak try, Xo

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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 12:39:50 AM »
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How is that new plug in Chevy Volt working out for you?

Don't have one. I'm looking at putting a 50cc 4 stroke engine on a Schwinn. End cost about 200 bucks. Top speed about 40. 150 mpg.

If the French build them better, let them bid on the projects.


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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 12:42:22 AM »
France, with a more pro-american newly elected leader-- a leftist governent

Germany, with a more pro-american newly elected leader -another leftist government

Great Britain, remaining a staunch U.S. Allie, with its new Prime Minister _ a Labour Party president.

Each and every one is far, far to the left of any US party or leader.

What is weak is your knowledge of the world.
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 12:44:46 AM »
What is weak, is your grasp of the candidates that won over those who were MUCH farther leftist/socialst, and Anti-American
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Re: We are less respected by the world?
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 12:53:16 AM »
>>McCain's stance on oil was weak, weak, weak. He's got nothing. If he's elected, nothing will be done. Gasoline could go to $10 a gallon and we'll still be hooked on it.<<

McCain's stance is the same as Barry's.

It's obvious we need to stop depending on foreign oil. Nuclear power is the single best option for America. The left, for whatever reason, is against everything that can realistically help Americans get affordable energy. No Nuclear, no coal, no drilling, no, no, no. It's a winning issue for McCain and for America.

This is where we agree, Richpo.

My father worked for 35 years...almost his entire adult career on the ground floor level floor of atomic energy here in NM. I have heard more than once at the dinner table how we have missed the boat when it comes to the use of such an energy resource.

And of course, bias not excluded, he is probably right. My father is a brilliant man.

That's why I tend to lean a bit more towards the conservative right, politically. He has reminded me many times that we are not going to survive as a nation with a socialist candidate such as Obama.._______.and at age 85, I do believe he knows a thing or two.

As his daughter, and as a public school teacher-- not to mention a free thinker in her own right....I question a lot! I do. But, I have to admit that my dad has been accurate in his thinking more often than not.

SO, when Ami thinks that HE has "changed my mind"...., I have to admit, I admire his view points..... but, actually it has been my daddy who rings the bottom line truth when it comes to politics, in the end.  

But, heck.....one has to enter a  good debate for what it's worth. I have to say this...that there is no "one particular party", no one individual who is 100 % spot on in any venue or arena of worthy discussion.


 But, when it comes to certain questionable points, there are some areas that we must visit VIA the book. ...The history book. Look deeply into the basic point of debate not through the heart (as I tend to do) but based  more so on  history and its proven track record. There you will find the truth.

We need McCain now, albeit a weak conservative to some like Christians.
Obama isn't seasoned enough, and he thinks in the dream world. We can't afford to put our furture into that idealistic rhelm of thought at this time. Perhaps a Obama I-Carter II would be a nice refreshing leader in the future, but he has too many strikes against him in the  negative for me to vote for him, AT THIS TIME. The NCLB act will change no matter who is elected. The children will cry out in the end. That's not a huge issue for me anymore. The states are sloppy. The private sector is strong. Truth. Fact. I still believe that we as a nation should provide as a basic infrastructure----a good public education. We aren't doing that. WE must find a ground in which we can all suceed. We are not doing that. Healthcare is out of proportion, but a government run health care system will have dangerous consequences in terms of selection of quality doctors.

 

I do believe that Iran does have potential to capture our attention in a massive and threatening way, XO. Just because they have not attacked our soil, does not mean they will not in the future. COme on...they would be the first in line to applaud any terrorists who would even invent a notion to show force in our direction.  You have not read enough about the down right hate element from very revolutionary deeply rooted  anti American side of the subject.  I disagree with you so very much on this one.

America is, of course, a very well developed country. She is not the essence of evil as the mid east would have you think. I watched Obama's face tonight. He was weak. He even appeared hesitant and afraid. HE is not capable of standing strong in the face of the hippie gone psycho!

That rhetoric about Pakistan etc..is show and not one ounce of it means much, in the end. He has become a pretty boy and one to admire. But, I am not happy with his track record or his knowledge base when it comes to the dirty dozen of countries that are too willing to kill our guts.

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Re: We are less respected by the world?
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 01:06:39 AM »
but a government run health care system will have dangerous consequences in terms of selection of quality doctors.


???

The doctors that will treat you are the same bunch of guys. Who signs their checks is immaterial. Your HMO selects your doctors. If the US government were in charge, you'd have a whole much more to choose from.


Obama did not seem even remotely scared to me. McCain's voice trembled at the beginning. But stage fright is totally unrelated to actual courage in any case.


Iran has no way to even mildly bother the US with anything other than words. Like every damn country in the Middle East, Israel included, these guys like to rattle sabers and sound ever so brave. But with the notable exception of the Turks, they are all wimps and back down if you just stomp your feet and give them a mean Samurai look.


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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2008, 01:09:01 AM »
Iran's pain

XO, here is just an exerpt from a book written by a man with the same last name as my ex husband, ironically.

You are naive when it comes to the Iran.

Read every word you can here.....you will see what I am talking about.
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