Not learning from our mistakes

[Plane]

Certainly we are engaged in nation building under this administration. That came with acceptance of both the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Truth be told we haven't done a very good job with Afghanistan and Iraq...well, it is even close to resembling an actual nation enough so that it can be rated.

You can't accept the invasion without the nation building. They came as a set, otherwise it is like playing a quarter of football then calling it quits. If people didn't accept that then it was the administration's fault for not making it clear to the public.

"You can't accept the invasion without the nation building."

I could , why not just destroy the enemy next time ?

We were not on the ground in Serbia holding territory or rebuilding the infrastructure.
If we are destroying an enemy do we owe them anything?


If we are to fight both Syria and Iraq in the next few years we will likely get a stab in the butt from North Korea and perhaps others while we are busy.

We are going to be pretty busy with a war like that and there will be little holding back and no planning for the cleanup.


I do not think that FDR or Trueman had the cleaning up and rebuilding stage in their minds as they firebombed and pushed the Manhatten project to completion, we won unequivocally and then started to plan for the peace.

What is the point of planning for a peace that you never do produce?

[Xavier_Onassis]

The principle motive for invading Iraq was oil. Oil and the fact that Juniorbush wanted to rectify what he felt Olebush failed to do: remove Saddam.

They are not extracting the oil for the same reason that they have none succeeded in making Iraq a peaceable democracy. They are incompetent, horribly, terribly incompetent. If they were to simply cordon off the oilfields and haul it away, they would be condemned by everyone everywhere, except maybe Texas and Israel. So they have to pacify Iraq before they can have the unguarded and functioning pipelines they need.

Nothing this crew of Neocon bozos has done was planned well, and none of it has gone well.

They were entirely right in putting Colin Powell in the cabinet before the election, because this bunch really DID require adult supervision. The error was that they paid no attention to him.


They can't even secure Afghanistan, because they want to follow Rummy's prescription of doing everything on the cheap. Not enough men, not enough attention.

It has yet to be proven that North Korea is any sort of threat to the US. It has always threatened South Korea.

[sirs]

The principle motive for invading Iraq was oil. Oil and the fact that Juniorbush wanted to rectify what he felt Olebush failed to do: remove Saddam.

Yea yea, and Bush is evil, Republicans are nazis, Bush stole the election, Neocons were behind 911, yada, rant blather     

[Plane]

" If they were to simply cordon off the oilfields and haul it away, they would be condemned by everyone everywhere, except maybe Texas and Israel."


Fancifull , but I don't see why this would be popular in Texas at all.

Nor do I see where this myth has any foundation .

[Xavier_Onassis]

Texas (especially Houston) is where the big oil companies are located. Conoco, Texaco, and many others.

Iraq has the single largest most easily exploited quantity of oil on the planet. But to get it, they need pipilines, and the pipelines won'tr work if they are getting blown up.

The first Gulf War started when Kuwait began to drill diagonally under the Iraqi-Kuwaiti border to pump out Iraqi oil.

It has always been about oil. You can stay naive if you wish, but that is the truth. Juniorbush and Cheney were chosen because of their connections with the oil business.

[Plane]

Texas (especially Houston) is where the big oil companies are located. Conoco, Texaco, and many others.

Iraq has the single largest most easily exploited quantity of oil on the planet. But to get it, they need pipilines, and the pipelines won'tr work if they are getting blown up.

The first Gulf War started when Kuwait began to drill diagonally under the Iraqi-Kuwaiti border to pump out Iraqi oil.

It has always been about oil. You can stay naive if you wish, but that is the truth. Juniorbush and Cheney were chosen because of their connections with the oil business.

I accuse you of being Naive , what help would it be to an oil company that owned Texas oil to make oil in general more availible?


There is nothing backing your opinion but your opinion itself.