so, if the Dems "really" believe "Bush lied-people died"...

[sirs]

It is beyond obvious that Juniorbush and Cheney both lied like orange shag throw rugs to get the US into this useless and unwinnable war. Both of them deserve impeachment, conviction, removal from office and major prison time for all the evil crap they did as well as  their gross incompetence.

But they will probably get away with their crimes, simply because what the country needs is an end to this foolish war and a return to decent democratic government.           

And let the rationalizations begin

[Xavier_Onassis]

What rationalizations?

Are you aware that you have yet to convince a single soul that Juniorbush and Cheney did not lie?

It does not require any sort of argument to know that people died as a result of this useless war. About 3,000 dead and over 20,000 wounded and counting.

I was merely stating my speculation that Junioorbush abd Cheney, who DESERVE major prison time, will not have to do any, because returning the nation to the pre-W state is far more important to everyone.

[Amianthus]

Are you aware that you have yet to convince a single soul that Juniorbush and Cheney did not lie?

Funny, I thought it was up to the people making the contention that they did lie to provide the evidence.

As BT opined, being wrong does not a liar make.

If it did, I have provided evidence that you are a liar, since I have shown you to be wrong several times.

[sirs]

What rationalizations?

Those that now try to explain away why supposedly "lying us into war", "outing CIA agents", "illegally listening in to innocent american's phone calls", "supporting torture", yada, blah, etc, is now not worthy of impeachment procedings, by the folks who were red faced in their accusations of such.  If that's what DC Dems believed, then it's their constitutional duty to impeach him.  Brass has already listed several "charges" that supposedly can be applied

Unless of course, they didn't believe it, but used it 24/7 to finesse the electorate to perceive such, and that it was all just to pathetically attempt to score political hatchet points.  My hats off, it worked