Trying to understand Liberals

[Xavier_Onassis]

sirs is whiny and needy?

I never noticed.

[BT]

Ahhh, I see...those you tend to agree with, and vice versa, get more respect, despite if they do the same thing you claim someone you disprespect is doing.  And concurrently, those that highlight your flaws and how wrong you can be at times, deserve your disrespect, even when never cursing or calling you personal names, like stupid.  Got it         

Want some cheese with that whine?

I'll defer to XO as to whether that is a pun. 

[sirs]

Nice of u2 to help reinforce my point, thank you very much        Yo, Xo, you forgot stupid and *place adjective here* land of sirs

[BT]

Nice of u2 to help reinforce my point, thank you very much        Yo, Xo, you forgot stupid and *place adjective here* land of sirs

You ever pause to think that XO might have been defending you? A literal reading of his post could point in that direction.

[Xavier_Onassis]

"whiny" and "needy" were not the precise adjectives that I would use in describing sirs.

[BT]

There ya go.

[sirs]

Nice of u2 to help reinforce my point, thank you very much        Yo, Xo, you forgot stupid and *place adjective here* land of sirs

You ever pause to think that XO might have been defending you? A literal reading of his post could point in that direction.

I've seen his version of "defense".  When they're not simply a deflection, they frequently include personal slurs, that you apparently give a pass to, while spending oodles of time trying to (ir)rationalize non-deflection references of mine

By all means, continue.  You, B, and Xo could start your own let's bash sirs club.  Boy oh boy, the misrepresentations you could muster if all 3 of you put your heads together would be epic, indeed

[BSB]

Sirs: "consider cutting and running"

Well Sirs, I suppose one could say that spending as much time in here "debating" as you do is the real cut and run.


BSB

[sirs]

There ya go         

[BSB]

So, sirs, you waltz in here, start up some shit, and then act like it's proof of something when someone strikes back? That about cover it? 


BSB

[Xavier_Onassis]

Actually, sirs will take any fallacious argument, nitpick on some teensy detail and turn it into a Constitutional issue, and then ask incomprehensible, unanswerable questions and wait and wait for an answer. Anything that prevents him from doing this is called a "deflection".

[sirs]

So, sirs, you waltz in here, start up some shit, and then act like it's proof of something when someone strikes back? That about cover it? 


BSB

Wrong as ususal (as is Xo).  But at least you're consistent.  Gotta give you high marks for that.  As I said, you, Bt and Xo have a nice fan club going though.  Work together and I bet you can generate some awesome misrepresentations of me and my positions


Sirs

[Plane]

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Who ever told you that life is logical? What fairy tale did that come out of? And who ever told you it was supposed to be logical? In the real world 1+1 doesn't equal 2. ............

BSB

Logic is a tool , learning how it works doesn't require eschewing intuition , religion , direct experience , trial and error and whatever other tool you might like to use.

When you find logic and intuition at odds , which do you prefer?

When Logic and experience are pointing diffrently , which do you prefer?

I think that logic is insuficient in itself , it needs to partner with experience and experiment to really become dependable.

[sirs]

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Who ever told you that life is logical? What fairy tale did that come out of? And who ever told you it was supposed to be logical? In the real world 1+1 doesn't equal 2. ............

BSB

Logic is a tool , learning how it works doesn't require eschewing intuition , religion , direct experience , trial and error and whatever other tool you might like to use.

When you find logic and intuition at odds , which do you prefer?

Hmmmm........I'm going to have to go with logic

When Logic and experience are pointing diffrently , which do you prefer?

Strangely, I'm going to have to go with experience, on that one

I think that logic is insuficient in itself , it needs to partner with experience and experiment to really become dependable.

Agreed

[Plane]

When you find logic and intuition at odds , which do you prefer?
Hmmmm........I'm going to have to go with logic

Yes most people would , but intuition is more availible and not entirely useless.

When you have a bad feeling , about going down that alley , getting on that elevator, swimming across that gap.....

....do you really need to compute a logical reason to avoid?