Whose facts do you gather, Plane?
Example: When Colin Powell got in front of the UN and reported on the analysis he was given by the CIA, on Iraq's weapons program, whose facts was he given, and how were those facts gathered?
They were gathered by applying a method that had been used to identify the movement of weapons around the old Soviet Union. This means of identification was Soviet weapon specific. It had zero to do with Iraq's weapons, real, or imagined.
They could have used any and all logic they wanted to and it would have turned out wrong every time. They weren't there either in reality or figuratively. They were imposing the wrong method from the outside.
So, my friend Plane, do you. You are calling the abortion of a fetus murder by applying the wrong method from the outside.
BSB
p.s. I wonder what any of that means?
You may have to symplify that a bit before I catch the connection.
A Human Fetus is certainly alive and certainly human, but by some mysterious process not a human being nor even an animal worthy of protection from cruelty .
In my state cruelty to animals can be a felony, but there is no limit to what can be done to a fetus.
If you wanted to kill a dog by rinsing its lungs with a salt solution you could be arrested, or pulling it limb from limb with a wire , maybe gets you a bit of jail time.
A fetus is not proven to be anything , where are any facts?
So it is not anything , it is not even an animal worthy of pity.
Good thing we need not be certain hm?
