Obama throws Israel under the Bus

[Xavier_Onassis]

Syria and Israel rather seem to deserve one another. Too bad everyone else has to share a planet with them.If we did not have to do this, it could be like one of those Star Trek episodes where Spock, McCoy and Kirk all resolve the problems in 45 minutes.

[sirs]

I get a kick out of these interesting tacts taken...

BT wants peace, but has made it crystal clear there can be none, so advocates that Israel "negotiate" with a party bent on its destruction, because, hey, we negotiated with Russia.  Can't start to count all the flaws to that apples/oranges effort. 

Then we have Xo, who conveniently keeps ignoring the truth of who's lands the Israelis took IN THE DEFENSE OF THEIR VERY EXISTANCE (hint, it was neither stolen nor Palestinian land), infers that Israel is the real evil in the region, and that the Palestinians held very lawful elections, with a "plurality" of Palestinians electing Hamas (along with their Israeli destruction mandate), and that apparently mandates that Israel "negotiate" with them....or else

So surreal

[BT]

I'm stunned.......I tell yas.....stunned that an Arab country would organize protesters, risking their very lives, in order to hopefully give a PR black eye to Israel.

Stunned, I tell yas

What is amazing is that Syria is so powerful that they can force Israeli Military to respond to the protestors with live rounds, killing 20 and wounding another 325.

Poor Israel, what can they do. They don't control their chain of command, Syria does.

[sirs]

Well that's funny....I could have sworn we had this conversation before, in which I had no problem with the force used, merely that the Israelis could have used lesser force.  And that if the intention was to actually kill, there'd be 300+ deaths

Good for Israel, not only did they send the proper message, especially in the goal of preventing future illegal crossings, now the background of the "protesting" by the likes of Syria has also been brought to light

[Xavier_Onassis]

Whenever anyone points a loaded gun at anyone and fires, that is a clear attention to kill.

This was not a proud moment in the history of Zionism/

[sirs]

Apparently Xo believes that Israel has a horribly inept army, not to mention the worse snipers of any country with a modern day military apparently.  a 16% kill ratio?  how pathetic

[BT]

Yeah Syria set out to give Israel a PR black eye and the dumb Israeli schmucks fell for it.

Those Syrians are so smart!

[BSB]

It should surprise no one that Syria can control the reactions of the IDF. The Israeli military has been fighting a disorganized insurgency for 60 years and it can't beat them, and it can't negotiate successfully with them. Sixty years, and they have nothing to show for their effort in this, most important, regard.


BSB

[Plane]

It should surprise no one that Syria can control the reactions of the IDF. The Israeli military has been fighting a disorganized insurgency for 60 years and it can't beat them, and it can't negotiate successfully with them. Sixty years, and they have nothing to show for their effort in this, most important, regard.


BSB

What do you mean?

Keeping the opposition disorganised for 60 years is not a success?

[Xavier_Onassis]

No, it is NOT a success.

That is why everyone hates Israel.

[BSB]

Much of the insurgencies disorganization is of their own making. As in the leaders they've picked. But either way, no, that is hardly a success. If anything you could argue that the disorganization, ie poor leadership, of the insurgency has just kept the ball rolling.


BSB

[sirs]

Yeah Syria set out to give Israel a PR black eye and the dumb Israeli schmucks fell for it.

Naaaa, the Syrians sought to give a PR black eye to the Israelis, and the "protester" schmucks fell for it

Those Syrians are so smart!

and those "protesters", not so much

[Xavier_Onassis]

It was really stupid for the Palestinians to charge across the Israeli border from a personal point of view. It was even more stupid for Israel to gun them down.

[sirs]

It was really stupid for the Palestinians to charge across the Israeli border from a personal point of view.

Yep......apparently so easily manipulated by the Syrians.  Must have been a bunch of "dumb schmucks", it would seem

It was even more stupid for Israel to gun them down.

Not if the message was "Don't do it again".  Pretty shrewed, if you ask me.  Just enough casualties to give any future "protester" cause to rethink such a practice of illegally crossing into Israel.  Can't say the same if it were a bunch of water cannons now, can you

[Xavier_Onassis]

I can say that using water cannons would have been far more humane and just as effective.

Killing unarmed people is an abomination.