Asian question for folks outside of california

[kimba1]

My exposure of the U.S. outside of california is very limited and I'm wondering do people think asians earned thier degrees or get them from affirmative action ONLY?

I remember kramer thinking the latter and I never forgot about it. 

[Xavier_Onassis]

I have seen no evidence that Asians (including everyone from Asia, Iranians, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Filipinos) are any less competent than White Americans or Americans of all groups combined. I have not seen any evidence of this with reference to Chinese specifically, either.

[Plane]

In Macon Ga. the Jappanese company YKK is respected , they even have a Cherry blossum festaval copyed from
Washington , copyed from Japan.

Madame Chang Kai Sheck graduated colledge in Macon.

When I was young it was very uncommon to see an asian here at all, no scarcity now , seems like a large change happened fast.

[kimba1]

just wondering if we`re perceived as hillbillies with internet or not. I do notice despite all the grades ,asian students are rarely called good students. xo even stated we`re inferior despite the grades.

[BT]

Nothing wrong with hillbillies.

They just have a different lifestyle than most.

[kimba1]

Actually I'm called hillbilly only by other chinese. Due to my dialect, despite my people are mainly dirt poor farmers. Feuken should be called that since they live in moutains(mountain folks?)

That might be why i used that term.

[Religious Dick]

My exposure of the U.S. outside of california is very limited and I'm wondering do people think asians earned thier degrees or get them from affirmative action ONLY?

I remember kramer thinking the latter and I never forgot about it.

I've never heard that one. Actually the stereotype of Asians is the opposite: they're perceived as being math or science geeks. On average they test higher than whites on IQ tests....

The IQ distributions of other racial and ethnic groups in the United States are less well-studied. The Bell Curve (1994) stated that the average IQ of African Americans was 85, Latino 89, White 103, Asian 106, and Jews 113. Asians score relatively higher on visuospatial than on verbal subtests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#US_test_scores

[kimba1]

I know about the stereotype,but wondered if it carried outside of my state. Remember tv and movies don't exactly reflect that particular stereotype.

113?

But jews had decades leads on us, but we're progressing at a decent pace someday seeing asians in college will not be rare outside of california.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Kimba I am with Religious Dick. I think Asians have a reputation as being generally quite smart, hard working, with close-knit family and community support. There have been a few instances where it seems like the Blacks seem to almost resent the success of Asian's that own and operate businesses in the inner city.

[Xavier_Onassis]

xo even stated we`re inferior despite the grades.

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I never said such a thing.I said that Asians are not considered less competent, because they are not less competent.

The only thing that Chinese are inferior at in the US is self-promotion. That is hardly a bad thing.

The LAST word that comes to mind when one hears the word "hillbilly" in this country is "Chinese".

Chinese are rather invisible in this country. The ones that one reads about in the press are college graduates, professors, researchers, businesspeople. I realize that there are probably dozens of Chinese waiters and waitresses who have come here practically as slaves to work in restaurants, but they are for all practical purposes invisible to most Americans.

[Christians4LessGvt]

The only thing that Chinese are inferior at in the US is self-promotion.

I am a huge believer in Asians, their success, hard-work, and high IQ's,
but i would not say that self-promotion is their only area of weakness.
I think Asians in general are great, hard working, smart "copy-cats".
They didn't invent the modern car, but they make some of the best.
They didnt invent the modern computer but they make some of the best.
I would say Asians excel in many things but they are not the greatest innovators in the world.
They have not changed the world in the way people of Anglo-American/European decent
have in the last 100 years. But who-knows that could certainly change especially
if China unleashes it's full potential by abandoning Communism and fully unleashes it's people.
thats just my opinion about the macro.

[kimba1]

thanks
ever since kramer claimed his relative got cheated out of a spot in college because of a less deserving asian obviously by affirmative action. I just couldn`t get that out of mind. I just needed to know if people think asian didn`t earn thier grades.

actually china is  capitalist but it`s the early america type which the poor gets lead tainted can foods and nobody cares. the big difference is china at least reacts to a safety issue alot more quickly than america did in the past. Internet can be a bitch to a capitalist who don`t care about safety.

[BSB]

Kimba, just down the street from is Wellesley College. Wellesley's one of the best, primarily womans although they except some men now, colleges in the world.  I drove through the college about a week ago. I would say half the students I saw were Asian. They aren't there via affirmative action. They're there because they're VERY smart.

Twenty minutes by the Mass Pike from here is MIT. MIT is probably one of the 5 hardest major colleges to get into in the world. I don't know what percentage of students there are Asian, but 60 to 70 percent wouldn't surprise me at all. You only get into MIT for one reason. Your IQ is off the charts.

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BSB

P.S. Asians can only copy? Complete nonsense. China is WAY ahead of us in many areas now. You can't copy from the front of the pack unless you want to go backwards.

[kimba1]

I got some serious doubts copying is that much of a negative. It's pretty how one syncs up, but what happens after that is another story. The past five years china has partially improved or changed technology. Ex. Windows based smart phones.

Meizu started the concept but the rest of the world ran with the idea and improved it even furthur. AMD has made a very good living on this.

Also innovation is a Easy fix just expose those researchers to a ton non related concepts and the imagination will start to pump. Steve jobs even said imagination is not that complicated

[Christians4LessGvt]

I agree Kimba....but I also think innovation is partly cultural.

If you don't count Hong Kong as a completely separate entity to China
then China as a whole lags far behind the United States in innovation.
Sure the Chinese have made progress the farther they get from Communism
and embrace business. Hopefully that will continue.