Ayatollah Ali Khamenei explains

[Plane]

..In a 416-page manifesto called Palestine...
...his view on the destruction of Israel and the deception of the US. The book, which credits Khamenei as "The flag bearer of Jihad to liberate Jerusalem,"
....asserts his belief that Israel does not have a right to exist as a state............
.........The book allegedly states Khamenei's strategy for the destruction of Israel is through "well-established Islamic principles"........
.........One of those principles is that a land under Muslim rule, no matter how brief, can never be returned to non-Muslim rulers. The Post reported that Khamenei lists Israel as a special case because it is an "ally of the American Great Satan," it has waged war against Muslims and because it occupies Jerusalem, which he calls "Islam's third Holy City.".............

....................................Despite this, Khamenei's plan includes a group of "fighters" in the West Bank that would develop Hezbollah-style units.

..."We have intervened in anti-Israel matters, and it brought up victory in the 33-day war by Hezbollah against Israel in 2006 and in the 22-day war between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip," he allegedly wrote...

...The Post reported that Khamenei then believes that as the cost of staying in Israel rises, the cost of supporting the Jewish state, particularly for the US, will also rise. Khamenei believes there should be a one-state formula that would be called Palestine under Muslim rule. However, non-Muslims would be allowed to stay if they prove "genuine roots" in the region, thus becoming "protected minorities."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/irans-ayatollah-ali-khamenei-publishes-book-to-destroy-israel-and-deceive-us/ar-BBlllUD

[Xavier_Onassis]

This is largely for internal consumption. Iran is not going to invade Israel or take over Palisrael.
Palestinians are nearly all Sunni, not Shia, Muslims.
Inflated rhetoric is typical of all Middle Easterners.

Iran has the technology to come up with far more lethal plans for rockets than the clunky dangerous toys that Hezbollah helps the Gazans build.

[Plane]

  It is intended exclusively for internal consumption.

Else he would not have admitted so much.

Iran has given very deadly rockets to its agents in Lebanon , plenty of them.

The problem the Gaza rocket builders have is logistical.

When they can smuggle better , they will build better neibelwerfers.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I am sure you a have a drone over Lebanon and have seen these "very deadly rockets".

Iran's Ayatollah screws with Israel, because Israel squawks so loudly about it. This appeals to the Iranian peasants, as they were bound to the land they farmed only a generation or so, under the Shah. The Iran Revolution ended bonded labor.  Those who were bonded know what open air prisons are like, they identify with the Gazans.

And of course, the Gazans are persecuted,and have been since 1947: by Egypt, then Israel and now a combination of Hamas and Israel. They are lifetime convicts, confined from birth to death for the crime of being born in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Plane]

  So nothing else they are doing has influenced the situation?
   Not firing rockets to carry bombs into town , not digging tunnels for the purpose of infiltrating kidnap teams , not sending a few dozen suicide bombers every month for a while?

    All they have done to get what they have got is being born in the wrong place and time?

     Take note that the Ayatollah calls the Hamas actions that they have supported so far "victories" .

   From his point of view this is a fight that he wants to keep fighting , and everything that keeps the hostilities hot is a victory.

    And yes Lebanon is thick with long range and high caliber rockets provided by Iran.
    Lately some of these have been lent to the support of Bashir Al Assad , but they can return to constant Harassment of Israel later. 

[Xavier_Onassis]

There was no way that Gazans would ever be more than cheap immigrant labor for the Israelis.
If they had been treated well, this would be different. but they were treated as unwelcome refuse, poor Arabs who were entitled to nothing.

[Plane]

  How do you treat someone who is punching you?

   When peace breaks out perhaps some peaceful initiative will have a chance to work.

     But what this Ayatollah proposes is persistently ensuring for year after year that peace cannot break out until a properly Muslim government  is in possession of that territory.

     This attitude is that peace is sinful , unless it is Islamic peace.

      I think he means it .

      For one thing he was not addressing us , this was published for his own people to study.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Yeah. The first ones to get punched were the people who live in Gaza: they were driven out of their homes, and told that everything the owned was no longer theirs.
The Israelis punched them first. They did not have the means to defend themselves. They have been shut up in an open air prison since 1947. That's 68 years of incarceration for just living where their ancestors did.

There were few Jews in Palestine before 1940. Most came after that. Needing room, they drove the Palestinians into Gaza and incarcerated them forever.

[Plane]

  No the present situation in Gaza dates from much more recently.

   They should never have accepted the Jews leaving in 2005.

    The segregation since then has simplified the artillery targeting for both sides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gaza

[Xavier_Onassis]

The Israelis were forced out of Gaza. Far more Israelis were killed during the occupation than presently. Israeli parents were refusing to allow their sons & daughters to be sent into Gaza.  It was not a mistake to leave.

The big mistake was the way Gazans were treated from 1947 on by the Egyptians, Israelis and even the PLO.

No country deserves to be marched into an open air prison camp for 68 years and left to rot.

[Plane]

The Israelis were forced out of Gaza. Far more Israelis were killed during the occupation than presently. Israeli parents were refusing to allow their sons & daughters to be sent into Gaza.  It was not a mistake to leave.

You misunderstand .

It was the Palestinians who made this mistake, they should never have allowed them to leave.

[Xavier_Onassis]

All the Israelis did no Gaza was oppress people and serve as targets for kids to show their manhood. The IDF was to Palestinian kids what lions used to be to the Masai.

They were never welcome there, they had no justification to be there, and their sorry asses were driven out by pressure from the parents of the IDF soldiers.

You really do not know squat about Palisrael if you think that the IDF served any useful purpose in Gaza.

[Plane]

  I think I can see that it is not helping them to enforce their own apartheid and make of their little area a Bantustan.

    This is different than South Africa's apartheid , in South Africa it was one sided , in Gaza it is the product of both sides.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The Gazans would be happy to be permitted to live in Israel proper or the West Bank, but that is not allowed.  The Gazans are the prisoners, the Israelis are the jailers.  They have been held in that tiny crowded, bombed-out place since 1947. Their children are born prisoners and will probably die prisoners as well. You should read Joe Sacco's graphic novel, "Palestine".  Sacco is a Maltese American. Maltese are generally devout Catholics, but the Maltese language is a dialect of Arabic, so he understands more than most Americans. Joe Sacco is one of the best graphic novelists around. He deals mostly with actual events: Sarajevo, Chechnya, Palestine, WWI.

In South Africa, Soweto and other Black ghettos were slums where the servants and providers of cheap labor were forced to live.
Gaza is clearly a horrible slum, but Gazans do not provide cheap or any other kind of labor for Israelis. They either work for UN relief organizations or NGOs or their own people. Few of them are allowed in Israel to work. 

[Plane]

  It was not half so bad before the Jews were expelled ,why is the UN and the Palestinian authorities eager to have this ethnic cleansing and apartheid?

   It was not so bad before the Indefadaha with its almost constant suicide bombing , the wall and isolation may be bad , but it isn't worse than a bombing campaign.

     The walls that the indefadath built are ugly , but it is the indefadeth that built them , it is a mistake to say that they have any other cause.